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War in the middle east

Discussion in 'Non-World War 2 History' started by P5, Jan 12, 2007.

  1. jeaguer

    jeaguer New Member

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    Yep they do , but the whole middle east drama is not about peace , everybody wants it !
    its about land ,
    in the atlases of the thirties there was this place called palestine , it got wiped of the map , it doesnt exist anymore .
    my guess and every reasonnable person opinion is that until atlases mention "palestine" again instead of "occupied teritories", the chances of peace are very slim indeed.

    P.S. I've travelled there , and dislike arabs a fair bit , but the israelis have all the guns and are big fat liairs too !


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    And in the atlases before the 1920s, it wasn't there either. :wink:

    Palestine as a country only existed between the Treaty of Versailles and the creation of Israel, and it was ruled by Britain & France. The name was taken from the old Roman Province that was there 2,000 years ago.

    Historically the area has been a battleground between Empires, being a strategically vital link between Eurasia and Africa, and the only time it ever was a free, independant state it was called Judah :wink:
    Not that this means that the Jews have automatic claim to the land because they once held it long ago.

    But, sadly, such historical fact is generally overlooked in the passionate and propaganda-filled debate.
     
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    jeag ...you got to know by now ...however much land the isralies cede to the palistinian arabs ...even if they were to cede 42 % it still would not be enough to stop the terror ...68%, 78%...it wont change anything for very long...giveing back the golan hieghts or the gaza will make israel harder to defend and wont buy any peace...no concessions will ever buy any peace,nor will any signed agreements ...its all a silly charade....
     
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    man isral looks like a weak country but they freaking won a war in six days. SIX DAYS!
     
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    agree on the dim prospect for peace in the near-east and really ,
    both sides deserve each other ,
    the " philistins = palestins" connection is marginally fraudulent ,
    so is ashkenazy jews claiming an "ancestral connection" to the land .

    as for peace it would be in the interest of israel , they have all the cards but one and want everything ,
    the palestinian have only one card , they have not accepted anything , so , long term they have lost nothing
    for them , its only a question of time until israel loose in spite of their tanks ,jet planes, missiles and atomic bombs
    this fighting business is very corrosive and hugely expensive .

    P.S. in the 1920 palestine was the name of a mandate given by the then S.D.N. to the U.K.
    the historical bullshitness of a place name doesn't means that no people exist , ask the macedonians ( carefully ! )

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    the jews are there because they began fleeing the pogroms of russia and europe ,they had really no where else to go...being christ killers liveing in christian europe has always been a risky and precarious existense ...if there was a big fire in an all wooden russian town ,if there was an outbreak of dysentery or cholera . if crops failed or livestock got sick ...well you know who was behind it ....the spawn of judas who sold out christ for a bag of siver ..jews are swindlers ,cheats and womanizers who lust after blue eyed slavic maidens...beatings robbery murder and rape ...with no redress from govt or police ..who cares ,their only jews...and all of this was something that could happen at any time ...if the jews resisted or killed a thugish getile ... things would get much worse...hurry come help us ...thejews are rioting in minsk .......now , remember all of this was going on hundreds of years before the great chiminys bealched black smoke at aushwitz...the jews had no safe haven anywhere ...they came to palistine and began bying up anything the arabs were will to sell mostly crappy land.. in 48 ,,the jews did not run any palistinians out of town ...some ran , some staid behind ,,,the ones who ran away still live in camps. the ones who stayed ..there are many muslim arab lands
    ...there is only one jewish state in the world and its the only democracy in all of the middle east...the jews want peace ..the arabs love
     
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    oops ..im too sleeppy...the arabs love hateing the jews ...the jews went from a christian pogrom to a muslim pogrom ...but at least now they can defend themselves....
     

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