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Why did the Americans let the Russians into Berlin first?

Discussion in 'Western Europe' started by Mylady Debbie, Apr 26, 2016.

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  1. green slime

    green slime Member

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    Anyone who has read Anthony Beevor, has read too much Anthony Beevor. But that is another debate entirely.
     
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    RichTO90 Well-Known Member

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    Exceeded only by those who have read too much of his mentor, Max Hastings. :cool:
     
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    KJ Jr Well-Known Member Patron  

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    Leave Antony alone, he's not that bad :)

    And no I am not defending his Bulge book, ugh.
     
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    RichTO90 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, but yes he is. His Stalingrad book is a rehash of Enemy at the Gates, with new mistakes added and no new research. His D-Day book is a rehash of Hastings' including all the same unsourced claims and the same errors. Gee, I can only speculate what his Bulge book is... :cool:
     
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    KJ Jr Well-Known Member Patron  

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    I can't defend him :).

    His popularity lies in the masses because of his narrative style and many don't know any better. If he would stick to one topic and develop it, become an expert and really take care with his primary research, he may produce something of more substance.
     
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    Anyway,

    Stalin did say to Ike etc that he was not interested in Berlin anymore.Maybe to keep the Allied away from Berlin?

    http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/battles_berlin.html

    Stalin's reply to Eisenhower broadly agreed with the Supreme Allied Commander's plan, with the exception of the use of liaison officers, in that:
    • Firstly, the Red Army and Western Allies should meet on the line of Erfurt ā€“ Leipzig ā€“ Dresden.
    • Secondly, Berlin had lost its strategic importance and only secondary forces would be allotted to its capture.
    • Thirdly, the main thrust by Soviet forces would begin in the second half of May.
    • Fourthly, the Germans were reinforcing the eastern front with the 6th SS Panzer Army, as well as three divisions from Italy and two from Norway.
     
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    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member Patron   WW2|ORG Editor

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    He did promise "Hero of the Soviet Union" to the first Marshal to reach Berlin.
     
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    I can't help but wonder if it would have been better if the Western Allies had entered Berlin first. For example, perhaps Hitler's demise would have been less of a mystery.
     
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    Read the previous posts. Berlin was going to be in the Soviet Zone, and as Ike stated, it was a political goal not a military one. Expending Allied lives to take Berlin made no sense. Besides, hindsight is always 20/20.
     
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    Not to mention.....the "Cold War" had already started. Allen Dulles was knee deep in it by that time.
    From the perspective of American Global Power, their military was better spent rounding up German Science and Intelligence.
    Right after WWII, the usa fought "commies" with German Intelligence Officers, later went to the moon on German Rockets, and flew "German Jets" in Korea against The Russians.
    The decision to avoid Berlin was pretty astute on Eisenhower's part, if indeed it was really his call.
    I believe the usa also used that time period to recover a HUGE Amount of Art/Culture that the Nazis had plundered during the war. My understanding is that a pretty Gallant Sized Effort was made to repatriate that "stuff with its true home(s). A heart warming slice of history, from one of The Worlds most horrible events.
     

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