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Defecting Allied Pilots

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  1. JCFalkenbergIII

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    It appears that a Soviet pilot defected in a Yak-9 to Switzerland. He was handed back to them postwar.
     
  2. JCFalkenbergIII

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    I remembered I posted this info for another posters information request,

    Jagdstaffel 5 Freies Ru was an attempt to set up a 'Free Russian' unit of fighter aircraft under Luftwaffe command.Although very little is known of this fighter unit, it is said to have flown some fifteen Me 109 G-10s.


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    Die Luftwaffe der ROA:
    • Vojenno vozdušnyje sily Russkoj osvoboditělnoj armii (VVS ROA) - Die Luftwaffe der ROA (2)
      - gen. mjr.V. I. Malcev
      • Aviacionnyj polk ROA - Fliegerregiment der Luftwaffe der ROA(3)
        - plk. L. I. Bajdak
        • 1. istrebitělnaja eskadrilla imeni polkovnika Kazakova - Jagdstaffel 5 der ROA "Oberst Kazakov" (4)
          - mjr. S. T. Byčkov
          (16 Bf 109G-10)
        • 2. eskadrilla bombardirovščikov - Schlachtstaffel 8
          2. eskadrilla nočnych bombardirovščikov - Nachtschlachtstaffel 8 (5)
          - kpt. B. R. Antilevskij
          (12 Ju 88)
        • 3. rozvěditělnaja eskadrilla - Aufklärungsstaffel 3 (6)
          - kpt. S. Artěměv
          (2 Fi 156 und 1 Me 262)
        • 4. transportnaja eskadrilla - Transportstaffel 4 (7)
          - mjr. M. Tarnovskij
          (Do 17, He 111, U-2, Ju-88, Bf-109, Fi-156)
        • 5. učebno-tenirovačnaja eskadrilla - Ausbildungsstaffel-Ergänz
          (2 Ju 52/3m)
      • Jan J. Safarik: Air Aces Home Page
     
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    Any more info on this?

    1945-03-30 - World War II: a defecting German pilot delivers a Messerschmitt Me 262A-1 to Americans.

    Today in World War Two History
     
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    "In the beginning of April 1942 he was transferred to Novocherkask to get acquainted with Me-109E. Here there was established the new special regiment with Me-109 in its service. In spring 1942 Pokryshkin flew a Me-109E delivered by a defecting Croatian pilot. When he met a SB bomber in the air, the pilot of the SB did not realize the rather dull red stars, seeing only a goddamn Messerschmitt and made a forced landing on a flushed meadow. Another 'own victory' for Pokryshkin after the Su-2 adventure. Only minutes later, almost the same thing repeated with a U-2. "

    Soviet-Empire.com • View topic - Aces of WWII
     
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    "The Germans had an advantage over the Slovaks in that they were semi-prepared for resistance while the Slovaks had to move prematurely. Much of the Air Force Group defected to the Soviets on 31 August. Notably they included the two Gustavs, the two surviving Bf 109Es, four B-534s, one Bk-534, and seven S-328s, but a few remained behind."

    Slovak Air Force
     
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    how many allied pilots defected
     
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    Bump for Hummel
     
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    View attachment 4803

    Slightly off thread but interesting picture.
    This well equipped bomber base is actually Vaesteraas in Sweden and collects some 40 allied bombers that landed in good conditions prior to sending them back.
     

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    Hi all,
    I posted this in its own thread when I was sort of still sleeping.

    First, let me say, Happy New Year all around, and may this coming year be better than the last one.

    Okay, so . . .
    Were there defectors in WW2? I was at nincompedia, looking at a picture of a JU-88R. This particular model is at Hendon and the caption reads:

    "Ju 88 R-1 night fighter, [​IMG]The aircraft was flown to Scotland by its defecting crew."

    Did many people defect from one side to an other in the war? I know that Germans from all over the world went back to Germany before the war in response to Hitler's call for Germans to return and fight for Germany (what was that call labeled again please?)

    I have also read of one British pilot, a peer with extensive property in Switzerland who swore that he would crash land there rather than parachute in Germany and put his crew up in his hotel in Bern.

    Thanks for responses.
     
  12. Hummel

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    well, THAT was a little too big, sorry
     
  13. JCFalkenbergIII

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    Thats ok :). Thanks for the addition.
     
  14. JCFalkenbergIII

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    Maybe one of the Mods will notice and resize it? :)
     
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    Fiat G.55 Series I
    Unit: unknown
    Serial: MM91150
    Piombino (Liorna), August 1944. This attractively camouflaged Centauro was flown to British-controlled Piombino airfield by defecting Fiat test pilot M.llo. Serafino Agostini, accompanied by an Italian intelligence officer, on 4 August 1944.

    http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww2/f/458/123/1
     

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  17. Adrian Wainer

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    Where have you heard this, it sounds strange for the reason that anybody with a brain would know most Poles were anti-communist and for quite awhile after 1945 the relationship between USSR and Britain was quite good as Britain voted in a socialist Government in 1945.

    United Kingdom general election, 1945 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Best and Warm Regards
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    Do you mind me as asking you what you are talking about, there was no big witch hunt against suspected Communists in the United Kingdom as was led by Senator McCarthy in the USA. The French are the French and are nothing to do with Britain.

    Best and Warm Regards
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    Well I do not think anybody in 1945 in Britain was considered a potential spy, unless they acted as if they might be a potential spy. Also I think you are referring to the "Battle of Britain" when you say "Battle of England".

    Best and Warm Regards
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    "In early 1944 the Allies recognized the Partisans as the official Yugoslavian resistance organization and quit supporting the Chetniks. When Italy surrendered in September, 1943, the Partisans had captured a significant number of warplanes, and they were obtaining more from a growing stream of defecting Croatian pilots."

    Yugoslavian Combat Aircraft of WWII 1/72 Scale
     

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