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Identifying gun from WW2

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  1. denseje1308

    denseje1308 Member

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    Hi!

    I am in possesion of a gun from WW2 (pictures 1 and 2). I have no idea where it comes from, but it was left to me by my grandfathers brother who traded it with a German soldier for a lunchbox in 1945. On the cylinder it says '26' and '44'. Numerous places on the gun it has a symbol (picture 3). The gun has an oddly shaped barrel (picture 4). The reloading mechanism is on picture 5.
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    Thanks in advance for any responses.
     

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    Don't hold me to this, but the shape reminds me of a Belgian Nagant.
     
  3. Gebirgsjaeger

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    A Nagant Revolver...yes but which version? They were used in russia, Braslilia, Luxembourg, Serbia, Norway and many more. The barrel makes me thinking of a Russian Officers model but the rest won´t fit??? The lower crown with the "U" fits to the DDR markings around 1950, strange
     
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    The knurled nut in pic 4 doesn't fit the weapon
     
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    Correct Darren, it looks like a cheap made repair, a very cheap made!
     
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    One of my father's friends, a real gun nut, did some research 15 years ago. He discovered that the gun was Belgian made, but not where it came from or anything..
     
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    TD-Tommy776 Man of Constant Sorrow

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    I found an online auction listing which has an old revolver with the same hallmarks. The description states that they believe it to be Dutch. The revolver in the auction is very different from this one, but they do have some similar features other than the hallmarks.

    Antique Folding Trigger Revolver European Gun 1800s
     
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    FWIW Nagant Belgian firearms manufacturer 41 Quay de L'Ourthe Liege.
    Now is the pistol a 9mm version or a 7.5 or 10.4mm cal? does it have a tapered bore in the cylinder?
    Being now late at night I can't be a- err bothered to look for the book of proof marks
     
  9. Heinrich

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    Those markings on your example arent dutch ,no way :) belgian more likely ..Dutch army never used Nagant 's either ..
    Browning FN ..and the hallmark would look like this :
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    Looks like a .38 short barrel.
     
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    The crown looks like a royal Liege makers marker.
     
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    I asked a weapons expert.
    It is a weapon made in Liege, the mark is a German mark of approval from WW2, and the gun is of the British Bulldog type.
    That is what he could come up with.
     
  13. Richie B

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    The Crown/U mark was specified under the German Proof Laws of 1891 and 1912. It was not used after 1939.

    Source: Standard Directory of Proof Marks: Gerhard Wirnsberger.

    In "The British Bulldog" by George Layman, there is a pistol illustrated which is made by a German company - Rheinische, Westphalische Sprengstoff Aktien Gesellschaft of Nuremburg. Their trademark was an acorn in a circle.

    Bearing in mind the only proof marks I can see and the absence of Belgium marks I suspect this was made in Germany.
     

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