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Researching Grandpa's Korean war history

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  1. Norseman

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    While I am also pursuing my Great grandfather's (mom's side) WW2 history I have some what diverged into other family as well and what they did with their service in other wars besides WW2. One of these is my Grandpa (dad's side) who served with an Engineer unit at the end of the war and was to my knowledge en route to Korea when the end of the war was declared. So I know somewhat of the basics but any other help would be appreciated in such as identifying unit crests in the pics below as well as any other info I may have missed. I apologize for the quality of the pics as they were taken with my cellphone will repost better pics when able. To the best of my knowledge the 3rd pic is the 45th Infantry Division patch and the 4th is the 8th Army. Any help with the first 2 would be appreciated as well as the translation of what the latin says under the 2nd pin.
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    Thanks Jughead, I should have specified I knew that the 3rd pic belonged to the Infantry Division, I will edit to adjust on that thanks for the clarification.
     
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    The first two remind me of DUI pins. I was going to suggest the same site as Biak. I'm glad he went through them so I don't have to. If you can read the motto on the second picture (I can't), check this site, and it may help. Mottos
     
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    I may have missed one or two!! Wouldn't hurt to check my sometimes lackadaisical observational abilities :)
     
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    Thanks for all of your help, and the search continues...
     
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    It looks like the lettering beneath the 2nd DUI says "OCCM LIMUS". Any one have any knowledge on this?
     
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    Thanks TD, Good catch Clint!
    I like it when things comes together and we can gang up on these hunts :)
     
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    Roger and Clint both hit the jackpot. Well done to you both.
     
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    Thanks Lou,
    Now about that "OCCM LIMUS" .....................?
    Looks like the 84th had two motto's; We Conceal & Never Daunted?
     
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    Looking at a blowup of the patch, the bottom reads "OCCH LIMUS". I'm not sure what it means , but I'll keep looking.

    Here is a link that explains the heraldry background of the "Never Daunted" pin. I think the other pin is earlier, but I'm not sure.
    TIOH - Heraldry - 84 Engineer Battalion
     
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    For those who don't know, the DUI in question belonged to my father. So, I do know that the DUI above are Korean War vintage. I think Lou is correct that it is the earlier design. It would also not surprise me if they changed their motto, since nobody can seem to translate it. I did come across this page on Scribd.com which says "OCCH LIMUS" means "We Conceal". It claims the info is from TIOH, but I could not confirm that. However, it does make some sense since "occ" is the root for "occult". The word occult derives from the Latin occultus which means "to hide from view".
     
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    Wow step away for a day and a lot happens, thanks all for the assist. Especially to Clint, Biak, and TD-Tommy (Dad) for the info got myself stuck on this so at least now I have something more to work with as to my grandfather's service in Korea.
     

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