Bring in gun control. Please!

Is that what the law says?

Yes, but he might turn back any time

 

Actually Za, in some parts of this country you don't have to be in the house, you can be on the front porch and the homeowner has the right to shoot you! Maybe that was for the salesmen and door to door religious groups!

 

I see your point very clearly, I can't blame the chap in question (particularly if they were indeed running at him) and I can't say I'd have necessarily acted differently. I guess there is a daft part of me that sees shooting someone as they run away as being a bit unfair.

 

Where's that, Tombstone AZ?

Bad sport definitely, unfair perhaps. :lol:

 

Funny!
probably closer to where Jeff is!

hehehehe!

 

Well, on the other hand I sympathise with the Rimmer doctrine from Red Dwarf:

Rimmer: Shoot him!
Lister: What? In the back?
Rimmer: Yes, in the back!
Lister: You'd should an unarmed man in the back?
Rimmer: I'd happily shoot him if he was on the job, it's just a pity he's awake!

 

A gun fight, like war, is serious business. Trying to be "honorable" or "fair" can easily get you killed.

James Coburn starred in a little-known western titled "Waterhole # 3", in which he played a wiley gambler on the trail of a stolen Army payroll. In one scene, Coburn is sitting in a saloon when a notorious gunfighter calls him out into the street with the intention of killing him in a traditional western street duel. Coburn is no match for the gunfighter and his friends are sure he will be killed.

Nevertheless, Coburn calmly steps out of the swinging saloon doors onto the sidewalk and looks down to the end of the street about 100 yards away, where the gunfighter, armed with two holstered pistols, is waiting. Coburn hesitates for a moment, then steps into the street in front of the saloon where his horse is tethered, reaches across the horse's saddle, extracts a Winchester carbine from the saddle scabbard, rests it across the saddle, and without further ado, shoots the gunman. The scene ends with Coburn riding calmly out of town past the gunman's corpse.

I always loved that scene, the perfect satire on the lunacy of facing an armed man, who intends to kill you, on his own terms.

 

Oh no my friend. I envy you for living in a country where you do not have to think of such things. If I did, I would think the same way you do. Unfortunately, here there is no deterent in the law by itself. The law actually works in the favor of the criminals which is why I think the way I do. If the law will not deter the criminals, then hopefully an armed public will.

 

I like that, seem to remember having seen it. I will admit that by nature I'm not a fair fighter (keep in mind I'm just under 5' 7" and whilst strongly built most fights I've been in I've only won by being very aggressive and not afraid to do what it takes to win), fair fighters tend to loose. On the other hand if someone is running away that isn't a fight.

Ike, it is interesting how difficult things are over here, in terms of the nature of people etc. Not sure we don't have to think of such things but I hope our police force etc are at least doing a reasonable job of protecting us. Note use of the word 'hope'

 

LOL. I'm the same height and my nickname is 'Scrappyike' after the cartoon character scrappydoo. It seems that all the big brutes tend to pick a fight with the shortest one (me) but they do not expect me not backing down. Normally, talking smack will change their attitude but the few times I had to go through with it, I followed my Mom's advice.....fight dirty!

Sorry to hear the current state of affairs in the UK. I was basing my answer on life there during teh 80's. So sad the change.

 

I live in Iowa and the law states "A person is justified in the use of reasonable force when the person reasonably believes that such force is necessary to defend oneself or another from any imminent use of unlawful force." This definately leaves a lot of room for interpretation.

 

Worded that way to give the lawyers something to work with...on both sides

 

Let me add to this so called "Burgerkid" situation.

I i eat mainly fruit and vegetables only on a friday i have pizza night where i make pizza's out of light Pitta Bread and low callorie chicken and pineapple with low fat chese, that is my one and only indulgeance, i don't drink alcohol, i drink bucket loads of water, but yet i am obese, always have been, i played squash, rugby league, and swam up 5 kilometres walked at least 20 kilometres a day and enjoyed all of it, and yet even through all that my BMI is 30% body fat, i can't shift it, no matter how hard i try, i have been depressed by it, even driven to contemplate suicide.

So where do you get off by taking the piss out of someone who does not measure up to your standards, I am not the only one in my position, one of my friends plays squash 5 time a week and eats healthy and he is obese. As a fully trained medical officer i know genetics, medical condition, medicines and other various other disorders contribute to being obese, and i hve known many who have suicided because they wanted to be normal and not perpetual victims of harrassment to which some of the harrassment is some of the most cruelest i have ever imagined, and to finish off i hope that Karma does not come to bite you on the arse by inflicting this horrible disease onto one of your children if you have or will have children. I know i have gone through that and now i am a social outcast.

v.R

 

Tombstone AZ?! "The town to dumb to die?!" That dump of a tourist trap? There is nothing about Tombstone worth noting. Nothing. Been there done that.

 

I was meaning the OK Corral context

 

As one of my uncles once told me, "it's not shameful to win a fight just by squeezing the other guy nuts really hard!"

Or as a Spanish saying goes, "Since the kick in the nuts was invented, there is no man who is stronger than other!"



Cheers...

 

Your grip of Portagee and Spanish is better than mine