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Discussion in 'Free Fire Zone' started by 36thID, Sep 7, 2012.

  1. Erich

    Erich Alte Hase

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    heck it is 30F and freezing fog, typical November except the Robins are real snootie along with the ring neck doves everywhere ................ must say the Japanese Maples are sure glowing in my yard
     
  2. Biak

    Biak Boy from Illinois Staff Member

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    Erich, you still have leaves on the trees? Ours hit the ground weeks ago. The thunderstorm passed through last night, it's 24F now and spitting snow. Heard a couple flights of Geese, Snows & Canadians, heading toward Steve today.
     
  3. 36thID

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    Send Birds !

    We're going up late this week or early next week depending on the birds....
     
  4. Biak

    Biak Boy from Illinois Staff Member

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    Turning cold today and tomorrow, 16F tonight high 23 tomorrow 12F tomorrow night. Then back into the upper 30's low 40's for a week. Looks like they may start down but doubt they'll make it too far South.
     
  5. Poppy

    Poppy grasshopper

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    Our Chinook will prolly push some geese your way Steve. ..Mach 4 by the looks of it...At least it's warm wind.
     
  6. Biak

    Biak Boy from Illinois Staff Member

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    Watched a few going over today. The Chinook got them down to here but the winds were out of the West and the poor things were flying backwards, last seen backing up toward the East Coast.
     
  7. Volga Boatman

    Volga Boatman Dishonorably Discharged

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    It would be very nice, in 100 years, to hear from weather forcasters that the present hysteria about crazy weather patterns was all due to our general lack of data on the subject.

    Folks, the sun still shines every day, the rain still falls somewhere. All the paranoia of people yelling and wailing about 'climate change' is just that.

    And I say unto thee, that if thine and thou liketh not the weather of their homeland, GO WEST, young man, and findeth a New World to conquer!
     
  8. OpanaPointer

    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    Hard science says different. Wishful thinking won't change that. But even if it were true, trying to clean up the planet a bit won't hurt.

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  9. Volga Boatman

    Volga Boatman Dishonorably Discharged

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    This is the same 'hard science', presumably, that is, at this moment, trying to convince consumers of meat and poultry that free range product is any better, nutritionally speaking, for human consumption. There is not a shred of evidence to support this breathtaking piece of propaganda, but people take it on as gospel anyway. Same with climate change.

    The Earths climate is dynamic. It changes, to a greater or lesser degree, all the time. The consequences of the last meteor strike large enough to wipe out the lifeforms of Earth has been dealt with by this same dynamism. Climate is a self repairing 'thing'; it gravitates toward the path of least resistence, as all lifeforms do in their development, and in their evolution. The Earth's climate is an evolving creature.

    When we have sufficient data about Weather patterns in the modern period, we can start to make educated guesses.

    Until then, it's speculative.

    What happened to the fabled 'ozone hole' over the South Pole, for instance? It's not there anymore!
     
  10. Volga Boatman

    Volga Boatman Dishonorably Discharged

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    Furthermore, if this excuse for funding for unemployed scientists delivers even half of what is promised, I'll eat my testicles, and enjoy every bite.

    Climate change not only provides lifetime grants for out of work researchers, it provides a rallying point for everyone with a grudge against governments. Green jobs? Lets wipe out unemployment without all the propaganda anyway, is that too much to ask?

    Healthier people? Not if we keep consuming food at a three meal a day rate. Our obesity problem will wipe out any gains we may achieve in that department

    And if I had a dollar for every government organisation I've ever heard or read about that promised a better future for all, I'd be a rich man.
     
  11. lwd

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    The banning of Freon and it's relatives is a possible reason for that. Note that Freon was is also a very significant greenhouse gas. As Opanna implies cleaning up polution and conserving what will eventually be scarce resources is not a bad idea even if some of the reasons turn out not to be all that valid.
     
  12. Volga Boatman

    Volga Boatman Dishonorably Discharged

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    Energy independence?

    We have Solar panels, (16 of them) installed on the roof of our house. We can generate enough power to cut our bill down by a substantial margin. But, our own Federal government, committed as it is to Sustainable, renewable energy, refuses to allow us to put as many solar panels on our roof as it would take to eliminate our bill altogether.

    The local 'Power and Water Corporation", a government run facility, is broke and in debt to the tune of many millions of dollars. Why we cannot generate as much power as we need to not have to rely on 'Power and Water" at all is a mystery that most don't ant to answer. Their excuse is that if everybody did this, the power grid would be overloaded.

    Thats utter tripe for two reasons. The first and foremost is that a power grid is over-engineered to cope with power surging already. The combined electrical genration of every dwelling in our city would not equal in any way the power surges felt by our grid from the world record number of lightning strikes this city experiences every monsoon season. So, that excuse is crappolla.

    Secondly, not every household will have a spare 15 grand to spend on renewable energy as we did, so it will be introduced gradually, keeping pace with any changes to grid capacity for the future that must be made by "Power and Water" as a matter of course.

    It all adds up to a government that promises energy independence, and then legislates to make this impossible, for a profit motive from a large company with an influential lobby, (bribes exchanged? I would think so!)

    When you have governments carrying on in this fashion, it makes you more than a little cynical of the motivations for said policy. And cynical also of their origins, and the scientific 'proofs' that abound to convince stupid politicians that this is so.

    Energy independence? NO! Governments are practicing hydraulic despotism! They don't want us to be energy independent at all!

    The loss to their income would be INTOLERABLE:eek:
     
  13. OpanaPointer

    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    I'm not even going to argue the point with you, VB. It's like arguing about evolution, there's no need to defend it.
     
  14. Volga Boatman

    Volga Boatman Dishonorably Discharged

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    I don't expect you to have the answers ol boy....

    But when governments lie to us about something that they push forward as good policy, it makes me wonder whether it really is a con designed to extract as much money from consumers as is humanly possible.

    Does California legislate in this fashion with renewable energy independence? I bet they do!
     

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