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Discussion in 'The Stump' started by Tamino, Jan 14, 2017.

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  1. Poppy

    Poppy grasshopper

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    #500- Ugh
    "Looking forward to Trump and Putin headlineing in Brokeback Mountain II are we?"
    Please, the thought of barry and michael was bad enough...why do you torment me so
     
  2. Takao

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    The police might not record the ethnicity of criminals or victims...But, scientific researchers do record that data.

    I'm guessing that you did not know that.


    Awww...sore because you were wrong.


    I'm not seeing anything wrong with this...Or are opinions now verboten.

    Further, the Cherry-picked quote you provide us with is actually from two different articles by two different authors
    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/spiegel-this-week-the-pain-of-a-donald-trump-presidency-a-1133155.html

    and

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/letter-from-washington-how-america-lost-its-identity-a-1131294.html

    Your going to have to face the fact that Trump is doing a pretty good job of alienating several of our allies.

    Don't forget that we tried "America First" back in 1940...It did not end well for the America Firsters. Perhaps, someone should remind Donald of that.
     
  3. Takao

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    The man makes more good points in 4 minutes 30 seconds than Trump ever has during his entire lifetime.
     
  4. Takao

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-lWv0cpCnM
    Mr. Trump...Release your tax records!
     
  5. Takao

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    Because you make it too easy.
     
  6. CAC

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    Trump should be side saddle...
     
  7. Poppy

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    #565- you bastard...Snot on the keyboard.
    Well played.

    We shall meet again.
     
  8. wm.

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    I consider it unfortunate that the occasion of my first appearance here is one in which I must condemn the aggressive actions of Russia.

    Crimea is a part of Ukraine. Our Crimea-related sanctions will remain in place until Russia returns control over the peninsula to Ukraine.

    Eastern Ukraine, of course, is not the only part of the country suffering because of Russia's aggressive actions. The United States continues to condemn and call for an immediate end to the Russian occupation of Crimea.

    The escalation of violence must stop.

    Nikki Haley, President Donald Trump's envoy to the United Nations
    February 3, 2017
     
  9. wm.

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    Yes, by haruspicy.
    Then please show us those researchers, their findings, the methodology used.
    It would interesting to know the truth in this case...


    It's wrong for Spiegel GmbH - a large, international corporation to represent only one side of the debate, engage in partisan warfare and simultaneously claim they are objective and independent.
    They don't represent the interests of their country or even Europe, just interests of a particular liberal group.

    It's as selling BMWs with stickers "Trump is great" permanently embedded in them.


    It's a single author: Klaus Brinkbäumer, and a single editorial: Trump as Nero. Europe Must Defend Itself Against America's Dangerous President.


    Allies with negligible military power, threatened by serious internet and external problems.
    They can feel alienated as much as they want - at their own peril.
     
  10. belasar

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    Unfortunately you will never find a totally impartial press anywhere, they all have owners/boards who have political beliefs and those beliefs are reflected in their commentary/reporting. If you do not believe me look at the news outlets of any period in history.

    The only vital element is that there are no single source's for information as practiced in totalitarian regimes like the old Soviet Union, North Korea and Nazi Germany.

    Freedom is messy, freedom of speech, religion all require that necessary evil of allowing others to speak and then thinking for yourself what is right, fair and just. This entire forum is largely about the people of one nation who abdicated their rights for 'order' over the messy reality of freedom.
     
  11. wm.

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    Of course, a totally impartial press doesn't exist.
    But the mass of hysterical, hair-on-fire reactions shows that the mainstream media are not just slightly impartial, but totally impartial - and failure even as news delivery mechanism.
     
  12. Takao

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    Trumped by Trump in an interview with Bill O'Reilly that will air on today, February 5, 2017.
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/04/politics/donald-trump-vladimir-putin/index.html

    So, we are back to Brokeback Mountain II
     
  13. wm.

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    He didn't say anything contradicting his ambassador words.

    There is nothing wrong with saying: I respect Putin (because his is a capable, dangerous adversary).

    Calling a leader of another country "killer" as O'Reilly did is stupid and inappropriate.
    On the other hand "You think our country's so innocent?" is accurate and to the point.

    Russia has waged wars for internal political reasons.
    And the US has waged wars for internal political reasons.

    Trump obviously see the problem as it is, without any ideological bias so frequently shown by his enemies.
    To negotiate with the other side you have to pay attention to their arguments, otherwise you can't respond to them effectively.

    Putin can easily say:
    You, the Americans killed much more innocent people than Russia in the last 15 years.
    We are fighting for lands which were ours, for the Russians who live there.
    What were/are the goals of your wars?
     
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    Poland invites President Trump
    During the highest-ranking meeting of Polish and American officials since the new US administration took office, President Donald Trump was invited to visit Poland.
    "The invitation was accepted and now we will wait for the response of President Trump as to his calendar,"

    According to Szczerski, Gen. Flynn told him that the presence of US troops in Poland will be a stable element of Polish-American relations and that NATO is the foundation of "security architecture" for the US.
    "There are no plans to review the decisions of the NATO summit in Warsaw, the US presence [in Poland] will be developed further, because soon new units under the NATO flag will arrive, and will be carried out according to plan"

    As they say:
    Politics is the art of the possible, the attainable — the art of the next best.
     
  15. Mutley

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    Enjoying the cartoons todays politics are generating
     

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  16. Takao

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    Sherlock...You have that information already. I would tell you to re-read the article that I posted in posted #547, but I know that you did not read it the first time...Or else you would not have made such an ignorant statement.

    Now, go back and read - for the first time - the article I linked to, to find the answers you seek.


    You defeat your own argument with your next statement.

    It is an editorial. What part of this concept do you fail to grasp?

    Or has Donald Trump banned editorials and opinions not just in the United States, but across the entire globe.


    Yet another epic fail on your part...Why am I not surprised.

    Had you bothered to read the article you just linked to, you would find that neither your first quote
    does not appear in the form you have quoted...

    Instead it is written thusly

    So, it is painfully obvious that you did not take it from: Trump as Nero Europe Must Defend Itself Against A Dangerous President

    However the text you quoted matches exactly to the first paragraph in the article by the same author that I linked to : This Week's SPIEGEL The Pain of a Donald Trump Presidency

    And your second quote
    Is totally absent from Trump as Nero Europe Must Defend Itself Against A Dangerous President

    Are you really that one-dimensional????
     
  17. Takao

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    Good. You can keep him. Free of charge. Consider it an American gift to help make Poland great again.
     
  18. Takao

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    Love it!
     
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    Bit sexist statement from an idiot who has to make things up that he considers others may have posted in order to call them racist. Back under your stone this just puts anything else you have said anywhere on to context.
     
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    Wow..................this next bit should make you explode:

    Another stunning Trump Triumph

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2786373/war-hero-johnson-berharry-hit-by-donald-trumps-migrant-law-and-left-humiliated-after-us-airport-staff-interrogate-ex-soldier-for-three-hours-over-iraq-passport-stamp/

    VICTORIA Cross hero Johnson Beharry yesterday told how he was “humiliated” by US immigration officials — because of an Iraq stamp in his passport.
    He was delayed for three hours and quizzed at New York’s JFK airport, missing a charity event once backed by Donald Trump. Johnson, who was wounded as he won his VC in Iraq in 2004, had been due to be guest of honour at the fund-raising fashion show.
    Yesterday he spoke of his frustration at the delay caused by the president’s immigration clampdown.
    “I felt humiliated,” he said. “I think they held me because my passport showed I’d been to Iraq.
     
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