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Ebola in the United States

Discussion in 'The Stump' started by Slipdigit, Oct 3, 2014.

  1. Poppy

    Poppy grasshopper

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    Respect that GS would go to - Egypt when the fanatics were saying they'd kill tourists, and now to countries ravaged by ebola. Are you a journalist or some other high risk employee...Angels go where fools fear to tread me thinks.

    Won't go to Mexico. One man's small and insignificant protest about corrupt Mexico, Africa- no way Jose. It's not Africa, but the plane flights. Don't want to buy a possible ebola lottery flight ticket. Not even a trip on a disgusting cruise ship/petri dish.
    Canada is plenty big, beautifull, and 90 percent quiet. Not a lot of freaky stuff going on.
    Silence is golden, visit Canada.
    Or maybe: Boring is nice, come to Canada.
    Terrence and Phillip want you, to come visit Canada.
     
  2. green slime

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    Well, I've travelled enough to realise the media hypes risks (it sells!), lived long enough to see that governments have us fearing our very own shadows (in 20 years of driving almost daily, I've never needed my seat belt. Not saying it's a bad thing, but, let's be realistic about risks for a moment; when driving to the town square for shopping, at 50 kph (roughly 30 mph), what are the chances I'd be seriously injured?!?), and that you can die from really stupid accidents in your own home.

    It wasn't all of Egypt that was threatened (it's a big place), and I know quite a few Egyptians. I know many people working there now. I think the risk is higher for an expat living for 12 months in the US to die of Violence, than for a similar individual in Egypt.

    BTW, I'm travelling to Montreal in March. Boring I know, but I need to kick an old friend in the shins. ;o)
     
  3. Poppy

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    BTW, I'm travelling to Montreal in March. Boring I know, but I need to kick an old friend in the shins.

    Is their name Terrence or Phillip.
     
  4. green slime

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    No, it's Fredrik and Alexandra
     
  5. CAC

    CAC Ace of Spades

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    Canada is also CoOooold...not good for greeblees...Cant find beenies small enough.
     
  6. von_noobie

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    Considering I work in the automotive industry quite high, Even to this day though not as common as used to occur have pulled blood stained dash boards out of damaged cars that have previous persons teeth stuck in it. Doesn't take a lot of force to cause serious head injury so a car coming to a sudden stop and your head flinging directly into your steering wheel and/or dash will easily cause serious harm.
     
  7. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Good Ol' Boy Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    Seat belts - Against any law telling me I have to, but I wont ride a vehicle without one. I also think you are a fool if don't wear one (pardon GS) at all times.

    I began to wear mine when working in the ER some 35 years ago. I would see people come in after relatively minor incidents with their nose sitting their cheek, teeth knocked out, or their lips ripped off. I knew I wasn't the most handsome fellow around, but sure wasn't going to get any prettier if I kissed the steering wheel or dashboard.
     
  8. von_noobie

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    I understand people being against things that tell them what they can and cant do but to be quite blunt people are stupid, Some times you need to tell the idiots what they can or cant do be it for their own safety or the safety of those around them.
     
  9. CAC

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    Nobody cares if they smash themselves up...its all about money.
     
  10. green slime

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    :cool:

    35 years ago, I believe airbags were extremely uncommon items. (The US gov. made their use compulsory in cars manufactured after 1st April 1989, first in 1984).

    I wear one, because it is illegal to do otherwise. I stated, however that I've never needed one. And that's saying something different entirely. In a world where there are people that fear to enter the water because of the extremely remote risk of a shark attack, where Australia is seen as a place filled to the brim with dangerous animals just waiting to pounce on the unsuspecting tourist, where fear of violence causes people to isolate themselves yet further from fellow humans.

    Road injury is the 9th leading cause for deaths globally each year, and road safety is something to definitely take seriously. Yet more people die each year globally from HIV. Does that prevent people from having sex without condoms? Perhaps lawgivers can require us to wear condoms whenever we enter the bedroom.

    With regards to driving, it has to do with driving defensively, and making intelligent decisions before situations occur, something a remarkable number of people are seem entirely incapable of doing. My current car (sole owner & driver) has clocked up nearly 400,000 km. That's ignoring my stints of duty in the middle east, where I also drove, in the midst of some of the worst driving you will ever see anywhere. Apparently, there is an injury free zone around the cars I drive. Now maybe I'm just lucky, or arrogant, or both.

    But perhaps I am coloured by the fact that Norfolk Island (where I grew up, and spend some infrequent holidays) only started requiring seat belts be worn in motor vehicles around 2004 (I forget exactly when). When the top speed is 50 kph (ca 30 mph). Norfolk Island has its own special road hazards as well, known as "Cows". Some of these four-legged bovines will put you back $1000 AUD if you hit one. Then there's the old folks, hard of seeing, that consistently weave all over the road, with random abandon. That's ignoring the potholes and cliffs as well. Yes sir, people have driven off the cliffs on Norfolk. Some of the pot holes are large enough, so you feel like you've driven off a cliff, maybe that was part of the problem. It's quickly apparent; you need to slow down before any foreseeable hinder, and engage your brain while driving. Maybe this isn't so obvious to people in big cities with pedestrian crossings telling people when it is "safe" to walk / drive, and the daily commute is mind-numbingly predictable.

    I'm far more of the opinion, that a good person manages themselves. Get the facts, behave sensibly, (i.e. with caution, but not fear). Is it sensible to use a seat belt? Indeed it is, furthermore, the faster you drive, the more sensible it is. Tractors on farms do not yet require seat belts... so there has be more to the equation, than just "always". But it is a "good habit"(TM) to get into. It also beggers the question, if it is "sensible" to "always" wear a three point seat belt, why should we not wear 5 point belts, head restraints and helmets in our cars, as many racing drivers do? Flame retardant suits when driving? I'm sure further lives could and would be saved... to say nothing of all the whiplash injuries we'd prevent.
     
  11. Bundesluftwaffe

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    What happened to Ebola ? Was it just another MSM hoax ? (msm = mainstream media). Have not heard much last half of the year or so.... wasn´t this supposed a grave danger to Europe & US too ? Strangely no more cases over here...... :eek:
     
  12. Takao

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    Hoax??? You really do have a rather jaundiced way of looking at the world.

    Yes, the Ebola outbreak is continuing, but not at anywhere near the levels that made it "news worthy."
    Liberia has reported no new cases as of April 12, with the last death to Ebola coming on March 27, 2015. 37 new cases were identified in Sierra Leone & Guinea.
    http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/outbreaks/2014-west-africa/
     
  13. von_noobie

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    It's no hoax, Quite simply the world is must more adapted to combating such situations and it worked well in this case.

    It's slowly being wound back on the ground while behind scenes I know that CSL (and possibly others) have been asked to create a vaccine for Ebola.
     
  14. lwd

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    There was an article on NPR a few weeks back about another case in the US as well. Fewer cases and other news have resulted in it being of less interest to the mass media. The fact that this out break was porportionally less lethal may also have been a contributor as well.
     
  15. green slime

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    A little more on Ebola in the US, or actually about the wierdness that can affect Ebola patients.
     
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    Very intersting article. Highlights how little is being reported as well. Sounds like many of those post infection problems are fairly common but I certainly wasn't aware of any of them before.
     
  17. Poppy

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    Geeze, that was an eye opener. That it could change his iris colour is bizarre. And the iris didn't appear normal either...What a brave man.
     
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    I want to see this in medical papers first. I am not saying it is incorret but whether it is the residual or the living thing are two very different things, and the papers like to make it a big thing. If this was true I am sure the epidemy would still continue on.
     
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    And on another side trek (couldn't resist):

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