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Thanks for the list of names. Im working on a list of names of Americans who were awarded various Soviet awards in WWII. One thing I can factually say, is that no American was awarded the Hero of the Soviet Union. This info was attained by an esteemed Gent who is a member of a hidden Militaria site, that only three of us here are members of.

Anyway, this Gent goes by the name of Doc, and he, himself, has writen at least one book on the subject. I hope to sometime soon, have the list of names here. I can at this time, get the info on how many and of what Soviet awards were given to Americans--if there is any interest here? As far as I know, none of that info is available on any other site? but, I have not tried researching that yet for lack of time.

 

Well, of course I'd be interested, Carl.

The Soviet criterium for awards fluctuated a lot, there were the purely military orders, like the Suvorov, Kutusov, A. Nevsky, Patriotic War, etc. and there were the political orders that might or not have military connotations, like the Hero of the SU, Lenin, Red Banner, etc.

These - I suspect! - were mostly awarded to already members of the CPSU or other foreign Communist dignitaries, therefore I suppose American recipients would be quite rare (unless you're Sen. Joe McCarthy who looked under his bed to see if there were any Commies beneath - and guess what! there were!).

I have somewhere a list of all the recipients of the HSU, and as far as my Cyrillic holds, I have seen few Western names (Kim Philby, Ramon Mercader spring to mind... )



Ahhh, the only photos I find of Patton's right breast are of Gorge Scott!

(It seems he liked my haircut!)

 

If I were a Soviet Officer I'd wear the medals to battle, they'd glitter and make the ennemy believe I am a whole division, they would blind snipers and make a great bullet proof jacket too! If I wanted to start a diet I'd just take off my medals and if I wanted to work out I'd lift my medals.

 

I knew you were bright

 

Will do as soon as I can snag all of them. Also, im very interested in the list of names for the HSU. I remember reading somewhere that there were to the tune of appx 12,000+++ of these awarded. Please tell me if im right or worng on the numbers awarded? ;-))

I know there is a good book or two 'out there" available on the HSU awardees that I want to get. Im not sure if they are in English or Cyrillic?

 

Here's the full list, beginning with that jack-ass Brezhnev :rant:

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I'm not into these medals. If a dumb grunt that risk beeing cut in half by machinegun fire every day cannot win it, why should a Marshal who only risk indigestion (not all were on a strict regime like Monty ) get one?

A line form Braveheart springs to mind. 'Does the common man in the field risk any less?'
Opposed to the nobles that could loose titles and land.

In the British Army getting a medal was about as easy as getting blood from a stone.
And unless you did something spectacular so that you'd get the VC, you had to stay alive to get it. Correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to remember that you could not receive the MM, MC, DSM or DSO if you were dead?

In Norway we have it the same way. The people who get medals are usually civvies who have managed to tie their own shoes four days running, which is pretty good since they are paid £67,000 to govern our nation. But the people who have risked health and life for the country are left to drink themselves to death or walk infront of a bus. And when the last one is dead there is a small column on page four in the paper about their efforts.

 

Oh, but you're wrong, Jaeger.

There were plenty of medals that could be earned by the rank and file, Red Star, O. Glory, O. Patriotic War, O.Alex Nevsky started being awarded to platoon leaders, etc. Plenty of them. And of course there wer all the campaign medals, the Defence of ... medals, the Capture of ..., Liberation of ...

Plenty of bling to honour the troops.

And don't ask how many were posthumous, nobody knows, but their price was blood.

 

Za

I have visited the Russian forces, and they are liberal with medals. I get the impression that they are awarded with medals for getting out of bed in the morning.

 

I know they are, I saw a bunch of sailors the other day here and one of them even had an "Excellent Sneezer Specialist" badge.

It's still a matter of Hearts and Minds, you have to distribute some metal to keep the morals high, and I must say the Soviet armed forces did display a disproporcionately large variety of awards!

 

I remember almoast running down the Russian commander of the North West district back in 1996. He looked like he was wearing plate armour.

 

We should tell them they would get even more if they registered on this forum.

 

A couple more medals and he would fall over because of the weight.

 

Hi Guys, Miguel, Stefan and Jaeger especially.

Soviet Awards to Americans in WWII.

The following were awarded to men in the US Navy:

Order of Suvorov 2nd Class -1.
"""""""""""""""""""""" 3rd Class -1.

Order of Kutuzov 1st Class - 1.
"""""""""""""""""""""" 2nd Class - 1.
"""""""""""""""""""""" 3rd Class - 2.

Order of Alexander Nevsky - 1.

OPW 1st Class - 27.
OPW 2nd Class - 27.

Order of the Red Star - 31.

Order of Glory 3rd Class - 45.

Medal of Ushakov - 5.

Medal of Nakhimov - 15.

Bravery Medal - 25.

Medal for Combat Service - 25.

The following are US Military Academy Totals:

Order of Victory - 1.

Order of Suvarov - 10.

Order of Kutuzov - 11.

Order of the Red Banner - 4.

Order of Alexander Nevsky - 8.

Order of Bogdan Khmelitsky - 1.

OPW - 57.

Order of the Red Star - 7.

Bravery Medal - 3.

Medal for Combat Service - 5.

Credit goes to Doc Riley.