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F1 goes green........

Formula One racing will show its support for the FIA’s Make Cars Green campaign by running on unique green-grooved tyres at this weekend’s Japanese Grand Prix. The sport’s official tyre supplier, Bridgestone, launched the specially-designed rubber at a ceremony in Tokyo on Wednesday.

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Max (Spanky) Mosley has warned F1 has one year left......

FIA president Max Mosley has issued a stark warning to Formula 1 teams that the sport's whole future is in jeopardy unless radical cost cutting measures are rapidly introduced.

Mosley described the current level of expenditure in F1 as 'unsustainable', and warned that the championship could face serious problems as early as 2010 unless action was taken now.

"Very crudely expressed, one of the teams at the back of the grid cannot possibly hope to raise more than - including the money they get from Bernie - say 40 million Euro, let's say £30-35 million, which in the real world is a huge sum of money, but that's the most they can raise," he told BBC Sport.

"To compete today, they need two or three times that and even then they're at the back of the grid.

"You can't run a business where the outgoings are two to three times the income - not for very long."

The FIA president believes F1 is in real danger of losing more teams.

"It depends at the moment on millionaires - or billionaires, we don't have millionaires any more - millionaires subsidising them, people like (Force India co-owner) Vijay Mallya of Kingfisher or Dietrich Mateschitz of Red Bull," said Mosley.

"Without them, those teams wouldn't be there.

"We've already got two gaps, we're likely to lose two or three more of the independent teams.

"Formula 1 cannot continue like that, that's been obvious for some time.

"At the moment we've got 20 cars.

"If we lost two teams we'd have 16, two teams 14.

"It then would cease to be a credible grid."

He said F1's bigger spenders were also keen to reduce cuts.

"Some of the manufacturers may be in difficulty now as well, because if you look at their share prices, their profitability, their sales, the days when they could just toss out 100, 200, 300 million Euro a year, which is what Formula 1 costs those big companies, I think they're finished," Mosley continued.

"I really think it's a serious situation.

"If we can't get this done for 2010, we would be in serious difficulty.

"I think we can survive through 2009, but if we don't get it done in 2010, we may be in serious problems."

Mosley is urging teams to significantly reduce their expenditure on engines and gearboxes in particular.

"At present the engine and gearbox together, for an independent team, is upwards of 30 million Euro a year," he said.

"That could be done for probably five percent of that cost without the person in the grandstand noticing any difference at all."

He also pointed out that the FIA had been promoting cost cutting changes long before the present global economic crisis.

"It isn't prompted by the credit crunch," said Mosley.

"This is something I've been campaigning for for two or three years.

"It has become apparent, long before the present economic difficulties, that Formula One was unsustainable."

The FIA has said that it will implement its own cost-cutting rules unless the teams can devise acceptable solutions of their own within the coming weeks.

Mosley: F1 in jeopardy unless costs cut - F1 | ITV Sport
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Kai-Petri said:

Ecclestone still knows how to throw punches...

Bernie Ecclestone has hit back at Luca Montezemolo’s criticism of the Singapore Grand Prix as a “circus”.

Bernie says:

"If the Ferrari president is right about the Singapore Grand Prix being a circus then we have to be grateful to him for providing the clowns."

Bernie Ecclestone mocks Ferrari ‘clowns’ | F1 Fanatic - The Formula 1 Blog | F1 news, cars, drivers and more
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The Singapore circuit is brand new and was untested until the very first race. Sure there were problems but they did not come to light until the race and most likely will be corrected before next years race.

Richard, Oct 8, 2008

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Kai-Petri said:

Ecclestone still knows how to throw punches...

Bernie Ecclestone has hit back at Luca Montezemolo’s criticism of the Singapore Grand Prix as a “circus”.

Bernie says:

"If the Ferrari president is right about the Singapore Grand Prix being a circus then we have to be grateful to him for providing the clowns."

Bernie Ecclestone mocks Ferrari ‘clowns’ | F1 Fanatic - The Formula 1 Blog | F1 news, cars, drivers and more
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Good on him about time someone put Ferrari in their place lets hope they have nothing to bitch about in Japan, and Lewis kicks their ass

WHEN YOU GO HOME, TELL THEM OF US AND SAY, FOR YOUR TOMORROW,WE GAVE OUR TODAY. Epitaph on the Kohima memorial .

wtid45, Oct 8, 2008

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Montreal dropped from F1 calendar

Kai-Petri, Oct 10, 2008

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And also:

Fernando Alonso linked to Ferrari with the Banco Santander

( Which mean they would buy Kimi out, I guess )

Fernando Alonso linked to Ferrari with the Banco Santander

Kai-Petri, Oct 10, 2008

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Japan F1 race ( time )

Pole 1. Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1.18,404
2. Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari + 0,240
3. Heikki Kovalainen McLaren + 0,417
4. Fernando Alonso Renault + 0,448
5. Felipe Massa Ferrari + 0,470

Kai-Petri, Oct 11, 2008

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Japanese GP results

1. Fernando Alonso Renault
2. Robert Kubica BMW
3. Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari
4. Nelson Piquet Renault
5. Jarno Trulli Toyota
6. Sebastien Bourdais T. Rosso
7. Sebastian Vettel T. Rosso
8. Felipe Massa Ferrari
9. Mark Webber Red Bull
10. Nick Heidfeld BMW
11. Nico Rosberg Williams
12. Lewis Hamilton McLaren

Massa got one point more, Lewis none...

Kai-Petri, Oct 12, 2008

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Japanese GP results

1. Fernando Alonso Renault
2. Robert Kubica BMW
3. Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari
4. Nelson Piquet Renault
5. Jarno Trulli Toyota
6. Sebastien Bourdais T. Rosso
7. Sebastian Vettel T. Rosso
8. Felipe Massa Ferrari
9. Mark Webber Red Bull
10. Nick Heidfeld BMW
11. Nico Rosberg Williams
12. Lewis Hamilton McLaren

Massa got one point more, Lewis none...
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Glad i did not get up at 4.30am if this was the outcome what happened to Lewis?

WHEN YOU GO HOME, TELL THEM OF US AND SAY, FOR YOUR TOMORROW,WE GAVE OUR TODAY. Epitaph on the Kohima memorial .

wtid45, Oct 12, 2008

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...what happened to Lewis?
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Penalty for the first corner of the race, and later on spinning and ending up in the back of the driver pack....Two races to go, hopefully not recalling last year and ending up with no points for the last races....

Kai-Petri, Oct 13, 2008

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I think the stewards were unfair to Bourdais, he didn't block Massa, all he was doing was exiting the pits.
The FIA want Massa to win, they keep fiddling the results.
Ferrari made by FIAT or should I say FIAT.

I got up for it , good race.
Pity BWW-Sauber didn't develop this years car anymore, Kubica could have been champion.

Owen, Oct 13, 2008

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Bye-Bye Williams?

Williams threatened by financial crisis - Yahoo! Eurosport UK

Kai-Petri, Oct 14, 2008

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Wessex Wyvern said:

I think the stewards were unfair to Bourdais, he didn't block Massa, all he was doing was exiting the pits.
The FIA want Massa to win, they keep fiddling the results.
Ferrari made by FIAT or should I say FIAT.

I got up for it , good race.
Pity BWW-Sauber didn't develop this years car anymore, Kubica could have been champion.
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I have to agree and they bumped Massa up to 7th for 1 point!

I am loosing interest in F1 on the grounds I'm sick of Ferria & FIA changing fiddling bending and twisting the rules and outcomes to races. F1 is contaminated with corruption.

Richard, Oct 14, 2008

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http://formula-1.suite101.com/article.cfm/french_gp_cancelled_for_2009

FFSA Withdraws Funding for F1 Race in France

The Fédération Française du Sport Automobile (FFSA), France’s motor sports authority, has announced its decision to withdraw funding for the French Grand Prix at Magny-Cours. The move means it is extremely unlikely the race will be on the 2009 Formula 1 calendar.

Kai-Petri, Oct 17, 2008

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For the Chinese GP Hamilton takes pole position, Kimi second, Massa third, then Alonso, and Kovalainen fifth.

Seems like Kovalainen has to be very good at the start if he´s going to be able to help Lewis.

Kai-Petri, Oct 18, 2008

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Lewis needs to finish 5 points ahead of massa to be world champion

WHEN YOU GO HOME, TELL THEM OF US AND SAY, FOR YOUR TOMORROW,WE GAVE OUR TODAY. Epitaph on the Kohima memorial .

wtid45, Oct 18, 2008

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Lewis won but Massa got the second place so we´ll have to wait until the final race of the season...

Kai-Petri, Oct 19, 2008

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A rather bland race that was. So it boils down to the final one and Lewis will be using his engine again and Massa will run with a new one, this could be tricky.

Richard, Oct 21, 2008

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Sometimes I just cannot believe the kind of mistakes both Ferrari´s and Mclaren´s personnel make....I think they are paid pretty well not to make this kind of mistakes...

"McLaren boss Ron Dennis explained the reason to retire Kovalainen, saying: “Heikki’s first stint was compromised by the fitting of a set of mismatched tyres, which caused his car to understeer,” said team boss Ron Dennis. "

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Seems like lots of mixed feelings about this:

If Hamilton thinks God is only on HIS side then he'll be losing our faith

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news-old/to...en-he-ll-be-losing-our-faith-115875-20827401/

Last year God was not on his side in the last races....

Kai-Petri, Oct 23, 2008

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Seems like lots of mixed feelings about this:

If Hamilton thinks God is only on HIS side then he'll be losing our faith

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news-old/to...en-he-ll-be-losing-our-faith-115875-20827401/

Last year God was not on his side in the last races....
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Hamilton declared, without any apparent trace of selfparody, "we have had God on our side as always."
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What is Hamiltons point here?

I'm sure god has better things to do......

Richard, Oct 23, 2008

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