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Grant Kosovo Independence?

Discussion in 'Free Fire Zone' started by Sloniksp, Jun 13, 2007.

  1. Hawkerace

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    Ah Bush, he needs to end his last year and so with Silence rather knocking on country's doors to sell chocolates
     
  2. C.Evans

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    All. And make it 10 meds if you want to count the Tylenol Back Pain Meds I take.
     
  3. C.Evans

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    The answer to this one is simple. ;-))

    IF a group of people decide they want to make camp in my yard, then want my house, and I was out-numbered; they would still have to face several of my friends: Walther, Mauser, Sears, Winchester, Baretta, Hawken, Brothers: Krag & Jorgensen and Brothers: Smith & Wesson.

    With these fellows on my side, those yard invaders would not be ther for long :-D
     
  4. Skipper

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    If only politics were as easy as cleaning our backyards
     
  5. C.Evans

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    Bro, aint THAT the truth! ;-))
     
  6. Skipper

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    I remember a local fair that was called the "Liar fair" Everybody was allowed there and asked to tell the biggest lies possible, however politicians and laywers were not allowed to participate because "they were too good at it". Now these are the guys who will tell that such and such a country should be independent or not.
     
  7. Sloniksp

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    :D :D
     
  8. C.Evans

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    Heh heh, if that liar fair happened here, the politicians would never have the time to politic as they would be much too busy for actual work. :D
     
  9. chocapic

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    One the other hand, the ex-Yugoslavian Serbo Centric government has handled the minorities issue with so much intelligence and humanity... that they can only blame themselves for each chunk of territory they are loosing now.
     
  10. Sloniksp

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    Read an article recently with some political anylists are predicting another possible outbreak of violence if Kosovo delcares its independence.
     
  11. Skipper

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    Oh yes, I'm afraid so too. This is exactly why they have left a status quo up to now.
     
  12. Sloniksp

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    Yes, but will such a move and recognition of a seperatist state set a precedent for others to follow?
     
  13. Skipper

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    You are correct Slon. This is why officially Nato has one speech but in fact they are being much more careful. Same for the E.U. The last thing they want is unstable and resentful Balkan countries as future candidates. But there is no miracle solution. Those guys have been fighting each other like cats and dogs for centuries. Thinking they can all the sudden love each other would be both dangerous and naive. Some of our Politicians have already forgotten the events that happened in Yougoslavia in the 90s, how can we expect them to remember Sarajevo in 1914 the Ottoman invasions, or the birth of the Serbian Orthodox identity in Kosovo ? History seems to repeat itself over and over again. This is why I do not think granting Kosovo is such a good idea either.
     
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    Serbia, in case of Kosovo independence has threatend to cut all diplomatic ties with the U.S. and EU.......
     
  15. Skipper

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    Well that is something I can understand. This is how most countries react if someone wanted to take the oldest province because the ethnicity has changed? Then some suburbs in France should become independent, parts of Russia, and even some U.S. states would be eligible. Why should we force Serbia to do what we would never accept ourselves?
     
  16. von Rundstedt

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    There was a documentary on SBS here in Australia called "At the point of a gun" where by 20,000 or so Jews fresh from Europe were at a resettlement camp and they were all put into trucks and shipped to a Palestinian Town and at the point of guns by the new Israelii Army 28,000 Palestinian were forced to gather as much as they could in two bags and were forcably evicted from their homes, while in the background Jewish families were unloaded and took possession of the forceably vacated houses. The funny thing in this it was an official film authorised by the Israelii Army. Oh and when is America going to recognise Palestine as an independent sovereign nation, i'd say never.

    Also on SBS news it is reported come hell or high water on the 1st February the Kosivars will declare themselves independent of Serbia, also some within Kosovo are prepared for armed resistance and say unlike previous history will not stand by and they will shoot first and ask questions later, meaning if it comes to war then that is the price to pay for independence.
     
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    You raise some interesting points von Rundstedt, but armed resistance against who? The Serbian army is no longer allowed in the territory and the Kosovars have chased almost all the Serbian civilians. They are 90% of the poulation now. the last Serbian civilians are higly protected by the UN Troops and ar etrappe din their own country. The symbol of this segregation is the Mitrovista bridge. What the Kosovars call Resitance, I call hunting and revenge. They go in the mountains and terrorise the last Serbs. I can't blame them because the Serbs have once done the same. But since we have not allowed the displacing of Kosovar populations by the Serbs why should we accept the chasing of the Serbs? Maybe because it is not on the Media and no one seems to care. Do Kosovo civilian Serbs have to pay for what Milosevich did to the Kosovars?
     
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    Serbian president said yesterday that if the UN can not defend the Serbs in Kosovo, then the Serbian army will be more then willing to take the job.
     
  19. Skipper

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    and the UN will witness the event and do nothing and Nato will retaliate against Serbia... and we will send a new peace force and history will repeat itself over and over again. Are we ever going to learn?
     
  20. von Rundstedt

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    Last night on SBS it came up about Kosovo again and that 26 members of the EU are in favour of the independence of Kosovo, but two are opposed and they are either Roumania or Bulgaria and Greece apparently they back Serbia opposition to an independent Kosovo. Well looks like it will come down to armed conflict once again in the Balkans (this is my opinion) sad really.
     

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