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uniforms

Alright to lay this down about the uniforms, US uniforms are crap theywhere cheap made at the beg. of the war. I had a US tank officer tell me that his guys pick up german uniforms and used them for warmth and the summer uniforms when it was hot. Merlin your stament is false. Yes in 1945 the germans where producing cheap uniforms but give them a break. Ohh and the germans came out with cammo uniforms that where fantastic. The US look at these and said we don't need cammo. In uniforms this how it ranks
1. Germans
2. British
3. US
4. French
5. Russia
6. Japan

 

Interesting - I had always heard the story that the US tried to introduce the camoflaged uniforms that some units wore in the Pacific, but it was found that they were too similar to the SS uniforms (thanks for the pic csp) and led to friendly fire.

Oh, and in terms of British uniforms, you should probably distinguish between officer's uniforms (good quality) and other ranks (sackcloth).

 

uniform quality

G36 tunic--- I'm interested in what part of my statement was false?
I was there, where were you?
With regard to Americans wearing German uniforms!!!!! any one found wearing other uniform got short shift if captured! Even Lugers were disposed of quickley in a tight corner!

 

yes the marines did try to introduce cammo but it was throen out at the war. Merlin about the lugars men where told not to carry it but was not enforced. When the weather was cold wool holds better than cotton. you actually think on the front that the uniform issue was enforced. Amercian troops did not care about order or their uniform. Its true that even germans stole russian uniform winter hats and amercian wool when it was there and british. I am sayignthat the german unifrom from bad to good are all around better than anyone in the war. To put it bluntly British people are still stuck up, tea drinking (bloody fools)

 

Edit: simon worded it better than mine

 

When did you last visit Britain Tunic?

How many British people do you know?

Think carefully before posting offensive stereotypes in future, you have not been here long enough for any of us to know your sense of humour yet, if you meant it as a joke, consider using smileys after the "joke".

Either way, your remark is ill considered, ill advised and offensive. :angry: Comments like that are only likely to attract similar negative stereotyping in reply.

 

Tunic, you're probably aware that soldiers wearing enemy uniforms were shot for espionage - I reckon that would make it an uncommon practice. And yes, this rule was enforced, several of the German Greif team members (English speaking Germans with American uniforms) were executed for simply wearing the wrong uniform to their advantage.

Most of what else I wanted to say as an administrator of these forums, has been said already by Simon. Do keep it in mind.

 

My dad has a book series on the German third reich and those books contain pretty awesome uniforms , hmm ,as a matter of fact I'll scan em Sorry , as of now I won't be able to scan them , but perhaps in the future.

 

uniforms

36, I am greatly offended by the tone of your thoughtless and offensive remarks. The majority of postings that I post on this Forum are facts and experience that I hope are usefull to the younger followers of the various threads, gained from experience and not from 'Kelly's Hero's and books written years after the events.
I have twelve grandchildren all older and seemingly wiser than you, a family member fought with the 82nd.AA, and I have many friends in the States. Fortunately I don't count you amongst them.
An apology would be nice!

 

wow the world

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You know this is very funny. I not going to get on my knees and beg forgivenss to you or anyone. I just think that British should consider US god beacuse if it wasn't for the US there wouldn't be a Great Britian. Not ecluding the russians who took the blunt of the germans. I see how you fight. If it weren't for the gurkas, and ANZACs the british wouldnt have any cracked forces. and candians. if you felt offended Merlin i am sorry you felt that. :roll: Long live the King

 

Your ignorance and arrogance is as incredible as your lack of any real appreciation of the facts of WWII.

No-one was asking you to "Get down on your knees". Your comment was an offensive negative stereotype aimed at the British as a whole, many members of this forum are British. What would have been nice would have been something like "Yeah, OK, I over stepped the mark with that one".

We no longer have a King, nor have we had for decades, this only reinforces my belief that your actual knowledge of the British people is probably based more on "Mary Poppins" rather than reality.

Your comments on the British armed forces also show a similar lack of any kind of real knowledge of the British armed forces, their units or capabilities.

You don't wish to apologise, that's fine, that's your perogative. You only damage your own credibility with your insensitive, poorly thought out and ill informed comments.

Merlin, I for one appreciate your posts and I appreciate you sharing your experiences with those of us who were not around at the time. Certainly in my eyes your recollections of real experiences carry much more weight than the suppositions of a re-enactor.

 

germanm36tunic

Pretty much everything has been ably said before by Simonr1978 & Roel.

You are displaying precisely the same attitude as most of our more rabid anti-USA members*, and frankly living up to their views of the average American. Which is a shame.

Our 'first commandment' on this forum is simply Be Polite

Please bear that in mind in future.

*I should point out that any member who is rabidly anti-anything without good cause is singled out by the Admin team for a quiet chat.

 

Tunic, you might want to do some research, and find out what the hell you're talking about! It almost seems like your opinion of the British Army is based on their performance in 1775!!! :-?

You're making us Americans look foolish, and I resent it. I've freely admitted I'm not overly fond of Monty, but I have naught but respect for "Tommy!"

When properly led, armed, and fed, you'd be hard pressed to find as tenacious an opponent.

And, before anyone thinks I'm sucking up to that tea-swilling lot, I still think that with a few exceptions (Horse Guards, Grenadier Guards), their uniforms are extremely drab. I'm not completely sure about nowadays, but I considered their WWII vehicles and equipment, well, let's just say "less than sexy!"

Cheeky git, ain't I??

 

So you find the Guardsmen sexy do ya...?

(P.S. Pass the Tea Guv'nor!)

(P.P.S. You up for Brussels '06 Tom?)

 

Hey! HEY! HEY!!!

I said EQUIPMENT wasn't sexy!!! The Guardsmen's uniforms aren't DRAB!

Get it straight!!! :lol:

What's in Brussels in '06? You buyin'???

 

http://www.fun-online.sk/forum/viewtopi ... c&start=80

Sort of a forum get-together, probably sometime next Summer the idea is to go go to Brussels to see the army museum there and jsut generally actually meet up in real life and see what we're all really like.

(Sorry, couldn't resist the wise-crack though )

 

THE BRITISH ARMY

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I never said I hated the british army. All i was trying to say was Great Britian could have not kept the war going without the United States help. But the true person who deserves creadit for defeating the Germans was the Soviet Union and nobody can say no to that.

What do you think i like the biritsh uniforms of the great war compared to the ones used in ww2. I like the four pocket front compared to the short two pocket one?

 

36 [I disagree with your opinion].

[Edited by Moderator]

 

Re: THE BRITISH ARMY

"But the true person who deserves creadit for defeating the Germans was the Soviet Union and nobody can say no to that."

Debatable, highly debatable.

They certainly soaked up the majority of the manpower, but their ability to do so was to a large extent possible through lend-lease. True US/UK combat equipment did not apparently prove overly popular, but the behind the scenes work was possible because of US supplies of food, clothes, jeeps and trucks, etc.

And as has been metioned elsewhere this arrived via the Baltic and Persia, without Britain in the fight that would have been much more difficult to say the least.

As for the daylight bombing offensive and Overlord, how well do you think those would have gone if the aircraft and ships had to fly or sail from the US?

The truth is that no one of the three Allies deserve any more credit than the others, yes OK the Soviets lost a huge number of personel, but on the other hand how many of those losses were because of SU incompetence (Such as the Smolensk encirclement)? The SU has itself to blame for its predicament circa winter 1941 as much as anything else thanks to the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact and the partition of Poland, and had Britain's survival (and US generosity) in part to thank for their own survival.

"I never said I hated the british army."

And no-one said you did. What was said was that your comment was an insensitive, ill conceived and ignorant insult on the British people as a whole. You have yet to utter a word of apology, again.

When this was mentioned to you, you found it funny apparently that you'd offended people.

"You know this is very funny"

You also posted comments about the British and Commonwealth armies that were untrue and spoke volumes about your lack of knowledge of them, and your post that the British should consider the US "God" is equally laughable.

If you're trying to make ammends for your earlier posts, try actually apologising rather than trying to re-invent what appears to be the intent of your posts from the words you yourself used. I'll say again, no-one is asking you to "Get down on your knees and beg forgiveness". An indication that you understand why your posts seemed offensive would probably be enough to me, I cannot speak for other British members of the forum.

 

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You know your taking this two a new level. I know that you British are proud of your country but you guys never will feel that you are just another country. Why can't you admit that Great Britian was not an important figure for the war. wow you defend the middle east and india goodjob. If was'nt for your navy there would not be a Great Britian. I apologize for insulting you but your not leveling down is bloody crap. As amercian I thank the soviet union for the destruction of the nazi germany. I will admit that Great Britian saved the US fighting the french in the indian war. But you Brits don't