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Messerschmitt Bf.109G-4

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  1. mauld

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziRZc6VF8So
     
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    Watching and listening to videos of these neat planes has a very pleasing quality to it especially hearing the sound of a flyby. :) Thank you for posting.
     
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    Is this a replica?
     
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    Wiki for the 109 says that there is an original G-2 flying in England with the RAF, which I think is the one in the video. I can't tell the difference between a G-2 and G-4, or any of the other G variants, for that matter. I like them though :) More brutal looking than elegant BOB Es
     
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    Wheres the clipped wings?
     
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    I believe the Bouchon was based on the G-2 so it should have the F-G-K series wing with rounded wingtips that is also correct for a G-4. IIRC the BOB movie Buochon had their wings clipped to look like E series.
     
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    I was being facetious...but thanks for the info...
     
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    Looks original. The Buchon used the Rolls Royce engine with exhausts on top. The DB engine was inverted with exhausts at the bottom
     
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    Are their any other installation of an inverted V-12 in any WW2 fighter? Or bomber for that matter. Perhaps the ME 110? Is there any clear advantage to one over the other, up or down ?

    I agree with Dave55, the 109 has a purposeful , built for war look, certainly not "pretty" but rather compelling, a sinister aesthetic that I, too, find appealing. The Spitfire, coming from a background of racers in the between the wars period, is rather graceful and far more curvaceous in all profiles. . The 109 says war machine, the Spitfire , I consider it the most aesthetically pleasing propeller fighter made, a judgement IMHO, made from studying design for nearly 50 years. Yet I do not "like" the looks of one over the other. Just different given their backgrounds.

    I have never seen a ME 109 fly, except on screens, did briefly get to watch a Spitfire at Duxford 35 years ago. Funny how they both stick in your visual memory. If one gets to Prague , the Kbley museum , a do not miss aircraft museum, they have these two side by side, with a P 40, 47, Yak 3 and Me 262 close by. The size of the 47 is truly imposing.
     
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    Some 30,000 hours of "reconstructive surgery" will do that...
     
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    Apologies. Did not see the link therefore did not read up on the history. :salute:
     
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    None necessary, the team did a hell of a job on the aircraft.
     
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    Hi Gaines

    I cribbed this from the Jumo 213 wiki entry:
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    The Japanese licensed production of the DB 601. Their most well known use was in the beautiful and unreliable Kawasaki Ki-61.

    DB-601 and 603 also went into some Italian fighters
     
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    Thanks, that seems to say the Germans prefered the inverted V 12 whereas every one else seems to have liked the upright mounting. I am guessing fuel injection may have influenced that decision. That poor chassis in the video must have infinite lives.
     
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    At least 5...at least 2 crashes before conversion to the G-4, and 3 after.
     
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    The Japanese Navy and the Japanese Army each had their "own" licensed version...

    The IJNAF had the Aichi Atsuta, which was used in the Yokosuka D4Y Suisei(Judy) dive bomber and the Aichi M6A Seiran floatplane. The IJAAF had the Kawasaki Ha40 and it's variants.
     
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    Totally agree! All of the Buchon noses look like Spitfires and sound like them too
     
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    I remember seeing a captured Spitfire with a DB 605 engine but I can't find any more info on it.

    Takao? :)
     
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    Your Fraken-Spit Sir.
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