Mustang vs. FW 190

P-39 was not bad plane,but had bit problems with stability and it was prone to stall. Imagine unexpirienced Russian pilots who enter they first doggfight in P-39.In a hands of much betther Pilots it do nice job.

In IL-2 Forgoten battles best universal fighters for me r FW-190 with i think 6 20mm cannons,P-38 ,and some of Jap. KI models (forgot name,did not play a while) with automatic flaps and decent firepower.Russian planes mostly lacked the firepower,they had strong armament,but 2-4 MG/cannons r not enought for my taste

 

Also on CFS2 is the Jap "Oscar" fighter. Its armament is so lame! Only two machine guns in the nose, firing through the propeller!

 

You really should try PF (Pacific Fighters) then. You don't get a bit crazy mission goals (like killing 5 B-25's with a Zero type 22 BTW that can be done if right tactic is used)

Regarding Il-2+PF
Ki-43 oscar on Tarawa You can outmanouver Hellcat anytime but realy slow and not well armed. A little hint use flaps slightly deployed. And you always fly at disadvantage ( like 3 Oscars against 12 hellcats and 20 TBF's). Excellent manourability in vertical plane you can outclimb anything.

Ki-84 is a killer - heavily armed, fast and way more manoureable than Corsair and/or Hellcat but not as well protected and realy weak U/C (managed to brake more U/C's than preform good landings). I also have a real problem with B-29 hunting over Japan if B-29 are at alt. above 7.500meters as plane becomes a bit unresponsive on controls and it is difficoult to get above 8.000m.

In Il2+PF i really love La-7 (3x UB 20mm or 2x 20mm UB guns) a nice plane for Me-262 hunting and LaGG-3 series 4 (early war). A bit slower than stock Me-109 but built like brick and carries a good pounch (1x 20mm ShVAK, 1x 12,7mm UBS and 2x 7,62 ShKAS + 8x RS-82 rockets or 2x 50kg bombs) with more than enough ammo. LaGG is a good fighter and excellent bomber killer.

 

In CFS2, they put you in a Zero and expect you to shoot down 10 B25s, when your plane isn't even fast enough to keep up with them.

 

Acctualy it is, at least until tail gunner drills a few holes in your engine ( that ussualy happened to me) :x .
My prefered tactics ( at least most successfull for me): close in from lower rear direction (out of tail gunners field of fire) quickly pop up and fire a short burst into one engine (gunner needs a second or two to react) and go down immediatly and repeat performance if necessary. Do not use this tactic later in the war against B-24 you will not come even into the range of your guns

 

Yeah. The B24 has a belly turret which could fire at you if you used that tactic, but for the B25 it sounds pretty good.

 

Unless the B-25 is flying low.

 

Can't speak for CFS2 but in CFS and most other flight simulators if you have the patience and time climb well above the bombers then when you're directly above cut your throttle then go into a vertical dive, you need fairly good gunnery but you can either rake a wing or the fuselage with gunfire and the gunners aren't usually able to get much return fire on target. As you begin to pull out, open your throttle and jink until you're free of defensive fire, then climb, wash, rinse and repeat. It's tedious but it usually works against even the heaviest armed bombers.

It's a fault of games like these IMO that they credit bomber gunners with far greater capabilities than was actually the case.

 

I totally agree!

 

tail and turret gunners in il2 games are all way overmodled ,guns must be manned by alvin york ,audie murphy and the barwell guy from the raf .their shooting is uncanny, attacking even a single bomber from any stern quarter gets you shot all to peices every time ..

 

Use zoom boom or come in lower. Basily it is nothing comparing trying to ger close to Betty with Buffalo (ussualy slowere than betty) in pac fighters or Pe-8 with anything in Il-2. Those 20mm guns do a lot of damage.

 

growing up in america as a avid model builder ,i was always under the impression that the browing 50 caliber was just the most awesome firepower ever mounted in an airplane .it wasnt until i started flying ww3 sims that i became aware of diference between machine guns and cannons in aireal combat and the relative punyness of bullets .

also its intresting that i could buy and build almost every ww2 fighter in the war , ie . us ,brit ,german ,japanese ,italian and even polish , there were no kits for migs ,lavs ,laggs or ils ...its as if the red air force never existed ,lol, a russian software designer opened my eyes to some "forgoten battles " with the release of il2 ,which ,imo ,is still the best ww2 flight sim ever made , and also to the fact that the p51 and browning .50s were perhaps not actually the very best things going in the skys of 1944...

 

woody:
I was a "Cold War" kid, and we were taught to loathe all things Russian and/or Communist. I do concur that there was never much in the way of plastic kits of Russian subjects. I didn't have a Russian WW2 aircraft in my collection until Accurate Miniatures came-out with the Sturmovik.
Now I have an excellent 1/35 Dragon T-34/76 model 1941 in my armor collection as well.
It's taken quite some time, as Monogram and Revell didn't have much to offer back when I was a youngster growing-up in the "Heartland." Odds are, we wouldn't have built any "commie-crap" unless we could model it blown-up.


Tim

 

The British used to fly low in their Sunderlands, when attacked by Hun fighters because the Sunderland didn't have a belly turret, because they had to land on water, and you can't do that with a turret underneath.

 

WW3?!? When did that happen?!? :lol:

 

tim ,i recall there were kits to build the t34 , i think it was silly for revell and monogram to ignore completely the russian contribution to aviation in ww2 ,even in the deepest depths of the cold war .building a soviet fighter wouldnt make a kid a communist any more than an me109 would make one a nazi

simon ,i prefer the ww3 sims because they are so much more realistic and true to history than the other eras sims , wink .

 

found it!!!!!!

Oberfeldwebel Josef Keil from JG 301, shot down his first mustang on 03/01/45 by war's end he totaled 5 with the Ta 152
also the Ta 152 was more than capable to deal with the tempest

from the book:
Focke Wolf Ta 152
The story of the Luftwaffe late war, high altitude fighter
By Dietmar Harmann

P.S.
during trials Ofw Friedrich Schnier took the Ta 152 H prototype Fw 190 V29/U1, w.nr. 0054 to 44,785 ft ( 13,654 mts)