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Discussion in 'Quiz Me!' started by skunk works, Aug 7, 2008.

  1. texson66

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    Well, it's based on the Me262 technology no doubt!
     
  2. texson66

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    Here's another one...
     

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  3. Slomo

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    Hope it's ok if I take a crack at it. Is it the Caudron C-714 Cyclone? One of the C-710 series developed by Caudron Renault ?
     
  4. texson66

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    Hey close enough for government work ...it's C-740

    Your turn, Slomo!
     
  5. Slomo

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    Was the C-740 another of the Caudron Renault prototypes?


    Here is another that is remarkably similar in design.

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  6. Slomo

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    :) Maybe a little hint: Think Italian
     
  7. TiredOldSoldier

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    With those markings it's Italian for sure, a SAI Ambrosini 207 I think but it could be a 107 or 403. IIRC the Cauldron 760 and the SAI both used the same Isotta-Fraschini Delta RC-40 730 HP engine.
     
  8. Slomo

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    You are correct! It is the Ambrosini SAI 207
    I was aware of the Caudron 760 but not that it shared the same engine.

    Here's a bit of info :)

    SAI.107, powered by a 504 hp Isotta-Fraschini Gamma RC.35.

    SAI.207 was much heavier and had the 750 hp Delta RC.40 engine.

    It was claimed to have reached speeds of 640 km/h at 4500 m. Impressive for a plane of that era. Only 12 aircraft were built for combat evaluation, before production switched to SAI.403 Dardo.

    SAI.403 Dardo used a Delta RC.21/60 engine.

    Due to the circumstances of the war which led to Italy's surrender a few months after starting the 403, not a single production Dardo ever flew.
    However the SAI.403 prototype was built and flown.

    The twelve S.207 designed for testing were the only ones to see combat.


    Over to you.
     
  9. TiredOldSoldier

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    I don't think it ever saw combat, the twelve pre-production planes were issued to an operational squadron but nearly immediately sent back to the factory for repairs as the wood had deteriorated during the time they were stocked in the open.

    Here's the next one

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  10. Slomo

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    Hi T.O.S.,

    The following is a quote from wikipedia page. Due to the open format of Wiki's, I realize it's authenticity could come in question.

    The SAI.207 had no real operational success. It served briefly with three squadrons. The first, (after testing at Guidonia airbase), was 83rd Squadriglia, 18 Gruppo, 3 Stormo, led by Guglielmo Specker, one of the Regia Aeronautica (RA)s best known 'aces', at Cerveteri airfield, near Rome. The aircraft entered service in July and flew a number of combat missions against the heavy allied raids over the Italian capital, but without result. After one month, they were sent to Castiglione del Lago G.Eleuteri airfield (at that time one of the main RA training airbases), where it was planned that 161 and 162nd Squadriglia would take the aircraft into service.
    Despite its speed, Italian pilots were not impressed by the type. They usually flew all-metal fighters like the Bf-109, MC.202 Folgore and MC.205 Veltro. Inclement weather was not good for the aircraft structure, it was badly affected by rain and humidity. Its service, in the summer of 1943, quickly ended. The aircraft of 83rd Squadriglia were sent to SAI-Ambrosini to be refurbished, but the Armistice made it impossible for them to return to their squadron.

    Here's a few links I was looking at: also refer to S207. short service record.
    S.A.I. (Ambrosini) S.207 - fighter
    The Light Fighters of World War II
    Italian Aces of World War 2 - Google Books
     
  11. Slomo

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    Could it be a variant of the Italian Savoya-Marchetti SM.79 "Sparviero" (Sparrowhawk)
    Medium Bomber/Torpedo Bomber?
     
  12. TiredOldSoldier

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    AFAIK less than twenty SAI 207 (most quoted figure is 14 MM.442 and MM.443 prototypes and MM.8425 to MM.8436 pre-production batch built in March-July 1943) were actually produced too little to equip 3 squadrons. The info I found is confused, including the Italian ones:D, but apparently 83rd Squadriglia, 18 Gruppo, 3 Stormo did some operational testing but never actually saw combat though there are reports of failed bomber interception attempts by the SAI 207s while 161 and 162nd Squadriglie probably never received any SAI 207.


    Right country, wrong manufacturer and model.
     
  13. Slomo

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    Aha I think I have it. If so you have posted a pic of a one of a kind variant.
    Cant Z.506B Airone Only one of these Z.506 was converted from a seaplane to a land plane.
     
  14. TiredOldSoldier

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    Still wrong manufacurer even if it does look more like a CRDA CANT than a Savoia Marchetti :D

    Hint: While both Savoia Marchetti and CRDA have disappeared as firms this plane's manufacturer is still very much in business. The plane itself was an unsuccessfull prototype.
     
  15. Slomo

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    This time I am quite certain I have it. :D Piaggio P.16, first flown in 1934

    :) Very challenging task! Another strike and I'd have been out. :)

    Here's a quote from Wikipedia:

    "The P.16 was a three-engine shoulder-wing monoplane of mostly metal construction, with inverted gull wings. Its wing was thick and semi-elliptical, and its tail was mounted high on the fuselage. It had retracteable main landing gear and a spatted, non-retractable tail-wheel. In addition to bombs, its armament consisted of four 7.62-millimeter (0.3-inch) machine guns, of which two were mounted in the leading edge of the wing, one in a retractable dorsal turret, and one in the rear of the fuselage beneath the tail. The bombardier (bomb-aimer) manned a compartment set behind the nose engine on the underside of the fuselage."
     
  16. TiredOldSoldier

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    You got it and it wasn't easy, I know very little about that plane except what's on the net !!
     
  17. Slomo

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    Here's one. Might not be to hard to guess but I thought it made a nice pic.
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  18. mcoffee

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    Razorback P-47 Thunderbolt
     
  19. Slomo

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    You are correct, P-47 it is!
    Sure looks nice, with blazing guns and tracers lighting up the night.

    Over to you.
     
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