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NEVER FORGET

Discussion in 'Free Fire Zone' started by Carl G. E. von Mannerheim, May 18, 2003.

  1. Jet

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    Sounds good to me Kai, heh heh heh.

    (Sure Kai, you got it from the net :rolleyes: )

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  2. Doc Raider

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    God, speaking of derogatory terms.....

    Now I mean nothing personal by this, this is just how the story goes.

    We had talking teletubbies at a store I worked at years ago. They got recalled. Thier "big hug " phrase sounded dead up like "biiiig c*ck". They had some other phrase that sounded exactly like f#ggot. There were so many complaints the company took them back, but we had a lot of fun with them before that.

    I won't even get started about the recall of the tarzan doll that would yell and masturbate when you pushed a button on his back....I do have SOME tact! [​IMG]
     
  3. Friedrich

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    Stefan, you're absolutely right on the matter!!! Very well said! ;) Forgive, not forget.

    And I can see Andy's reaction... even if a little bit sarcastic... I also had this stupid, stupid teacher who said that "Napoléon invaded STALINgrad in winter and the Russians went away with the food, so the Germans (under Napoléon's command...) starved to death and Napoléon lost" I am not kidding! She really said that! And of course, she failed me! I had a big and red F on my exams... Old b*t*ch! Well, she's old and will die soon... I forgive her. But I don't forget! ;)
     
  4. Stefan

    Stefan Cavalry Rupert

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    Thanks guys, a little addition to what I said based on something I just read in George McDonald Frasers memoir of WW2. There is one paragraph when he talks about seeing the Japanese deat after the battle of Pawabwe, the mens feelings of the futility with which these men died 'Tojos way' and his hatred. He openly admits to hateing the Japanese and seeing them in the way propaganda portrayed them because of his experiences and those of his Comerades. He has trouble connecting his generation of Japanese to the new generation and so there is not hatred but discomfort. He talks about a television program he saw once where Japanese veterans spoke of their time in the front and says 'It crossed my mind: were any of you on the pyawabwe slope, and lived to tell the tale? Well, if they did at this time of day I don't mind.' I find that statement rather touching. How can one expect such hatred to go away in just fifty years? To my mind, that final statement is as good as forgiveness. He says that what he felt was not sympathy but 'recognition', I would read that as recognition that these men survived the same hell as he did. Forgiveness is a lot to ask a vet for, recognition is more like it.
     
  5. urqh

    urqh Tea drinking surrender monkey

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    Well said Steffan, the last lines of your post is what it is all about...The vets, its up to them not us.

    I'll say one more thing before retiring, the Japanese education system from ww2. If there is ever to be an end to all this, and in that we must look at the Asian countries affected not just the western nations, then it might be worth taking a look at how ww2 has been presented to generation after generation in Japan.

    If this had been Germany after ww2 there would have been a lot more to say. Recogniton is a big word.
     
  6. urqh

    urqh Tea drinking surrender monkey

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    Sorry Ill calrify last post, rather than saying recogniton is a big word, I should have said recognition is perhaps the word we as none vets should be using rather than forgiveness.

    Forget is not debatable as all have said here, but forgiveness is probably wrong word for rest of us on this forum, Steffan has probably provided a better word here..Recognition.
     
  7. Stefan

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    Correction, Mr Fraser has provided us with a big word, his book 'Quartered Safe Out Here' is fantastic and I would advise anyone to read it.
     
  8. Martin Bull

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