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Discussion in 'The Stump' started by Wolfy, Jan 20, 2009.

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  1. Wolfy

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    It is estimated that it will take tremendous cost and two or three decades to fully integrate "alternates" into the US economy.
     
  2. Adrian Wainer

    Adrian Wainer Dishonorably Discharged

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    Well if it is going to take some time all the more reason to get started, furthermore when the US buys in oil from abroad that is money being sucked out of the American economy. If you put wind, wave and solar powers facilities in to the US you can build all that stuff in the US and get such a lead on that stuff, that you will get export orders.

    http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=DxOYwWu7Xcc

    http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=PyehD1j0kUU&NR=1

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  4. Devilsadvocate

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    Wanna bet?

    Obama's own platform slapped a socialist label on him, one he doesn't deny. The only question remaining is, how far will the Democratic Congress be willing to go in selling out the country's values? My guess is as far as Obama wants, just so long as they are careful to disguise the legislation as "entitlements".

    If you think Bush was lax in confronting the Saudis, just wait until you see B. Hussein Obama in action, or perhaps the appropriate word would be inaction. No pun intended, LOL!
     
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    no doubt, and it wasn't Bush it was his admin that confronted the Saudi's but in favor and not to lose face they did their fare share of pointing the finger at their own terrorist lying within their borders, we have creamed enough of them, but there are more to follow down the same road and they will feel the same sandwich effect.
     
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    We wre quoted here in Aussie that the Inauguration was something closer to 280 million US that is about 400 miilion Au.

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    PzJgr

    You forgot one thing about Texas going it alone and i'll add it to your list.

    13. Once texas goes it alone we have to asume hundreds of billions of dollars in national debt as a prerequistie to succession, but can we afford this.

    v.R
     
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    You are by far the most ignorant person that has graced this forum.

    President Barak Obama has never been a Muslim full stop, so that make the rest of your rant pointless.

    If you want to rant on about the Muslimfication of the west then George Walker Bush was a grand champion of it, let the facts get in the way shall we.

    1, most of all the terrorists that were allegedly involved in 9/11 were all Saudis not Afhganiis, Iraqiis, Iranians no all were Saudiis so why didn't George Walker Bush declare war on the Saudiis, must have been because he was in the Saudiis back pocket.

    2, At least President Barak Obama has travelled and experienced life outside the Contintental US George Walker Bush had not once in his life prior becoming President set foot outside the Continental US, not even to Canada.

    3, It sounds more like that you hate the fact that you have now a African American as President, you better put on your white hood and burn some more crosses, you are a petty pathetic Xenophobe.

    4, last but not least i wish you could stand up in my Mosque and repeat those accusations face to face, but Xenophobes like you are too gutless to do this, sounds like you never got over the fact SLAVERY was repealed in the US.

    5, Muslims of the world unite.

    Allah be Praised.

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  9. PzJgr

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    The oath took a left turn, Kennedy has a seizure and then Byrd falls ill. Need I say more
     
  10. SOAR21

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    If America had a penny for every well-intentioned, well-planned, and ideal promise, we would be the richest country in all of history. If we also had a penny for each promise that went unfulfilled and awry, we would be right back where we started.

    I like what Obama wants, and what he promises, but I doubt he can do it all. Even so, if he can carry out 1/8 of what he promised, he would be a good pres in my book.

    Anyone notice a similarity to F.D.R.'s promises for the Great Depression? He did it, there is no reason Obama can't.

    As for PzJgr...LOL. I have no doubt about Texas's ability for self-sufficiency. Take out California, Florida, and Tom Brady and America would be weaker than Argentina. All they would have left are mountains, New York, mountains, Chicago, desert, minor port, grass, minor port, grass, minor port, and some farmland.
     
  11. Skipper

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    Obama's main problem is that the bigger the hopes, the bigger the desillusions. I hope he"ll succeed to restore America for the sake of this great country and the rest of the world. If he doesn't and I'm afraid he"ll have a hard time, many will be bitter, as too much is expected from him. Too many promises are hard to keep. However, I do not judge a man for what he promises, but for what he achieved. If not, all politicians should be considered as supermen , or at least that's what they would call themselves. :)
     
  12. Za Rodinu

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    Now that we are over the bushisms, it's time to turn a new page. I still miss Dan Quayle, though.

    And dedicated to some (you know who you are) of our members who may feel like this:
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    Don't you ever change Za
     
  14. Adrian Wainer

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    You argument is well thought out, decent and intelligent, but it is missing the essential point. That one, can not fight Islamonfascism by going after terrorists. Okay, there are terrorists around and they have to gone after for sure but that will only only maintain things in a holding state, in that if one focuses on terrorists, one can stamp them out in one place and a different lot will pop up somewhere else and when you deal with them, a different lot will pop up somewhere else. If one focuses on terrorists, all one is essentially is turning the big mistake of how the Vietnam War was conducted i.e. the attrition strategy in to a go large version of same, so in instead of just losing one country i.e. Vietnam...................America and the entire World is going to be lost. For sure, the Saudi authorities will crack down on Islamist organizations within Saudi Arabia, for the reason they represent a potential threat to the Saudi Royal family, meanwhile the Saudi regime is exporting its ideology of Islamofascist World revolution all over the World including the USA. The only way Islamofascism can be defeated is at an ideological level and that is quite impossible to do e.g. when the US government is allowing e.g. US Muslim organizations and US mosques to be run by the Saudis and US universities to be turned in to Saudi poodles by their effectively purchasing the Mid Eastern and Muslim studies departments to be run as Saudi public relations offices.

    How Islamic Wahhabism infiltrated Chicago

    http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=wtMuRm7JxMM

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    So the first thing he does is put a halt to the prosecutions of the 21 Gitmo detainees. The ACLU backs this and wants all of the detainees released including those who are self professed participants in the planning of the 9-11 attack.

    Among those facing trial is Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the confessed organizer of the September 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington. A hearing in Mohammed's case was scheduled for Wednesday, and Tuesday night's order is expected to be discussed at that time.

    So how is Osama's first act as president contributing to fixing the nation?
     
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    Adrian I've personally been involved in all that gunk, the Bush admin , well should say "we" have been involved in more than Terrorist rounding up. it's already been proven the Arabs have supported other small regimes like Arafats little thing he had going with blowing up jets if you remember that. Under the new admin if the man does not get warped and pull the guys out of spots like Lebanon, Syria, Turkey and elsewere then our "eyes" will still be watching. Remember the media will not protray the truth even in your you tube vids you post, they only provide a bare glimpse of the skimming over the top but not the real guts of the matters at hand.......

    as PzJgrs last statement the new man hasn't got a chance
     
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    Adrian,

    An interesting theory, but off the mark, I'm afraid.

    Why would the Saudi's crack down on Islamofascism in their own country, yet continue to export it and fund it in other countries?

    If the Saudi's really do control and advocate a worldwide Islamic revolution, why do organizations like Al-Guaeda oppose their regime?

    I think you are making the same mistake that most in the West are making; assuming that Islam is a monolithic and totally unified political/religious force.

    In any event, Regardless of what you may have read in the international media, the US is not an authoritarian regime; the US government cannot "go after" people or religious movements unless they violate our laws. Teaching religious thought, or political theory, has a high degree of protection in this country, and most of us want to keep it that way. The US can, and does, go after terrorists because terrorism is against our laws. However, the recently elected president apparently feels the past administration has been too aggressive in combating terrorism. Thus you can look for even less action against terrorist activity from B. Hussein Obama, than from George Bush.

    In my personal opinion, this (the Obama administration) is a setback, but only a temporary one. Islamofascism, and militant islam have no future in the West, and very little anywhere else. That's because people basically want to live their lives peacefully and productively, not pursuing some authoritarian religious fantasy. Islam can, with some reform, profit in the modern world, countries like Turkey prove that.
     
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    Hey what's a few admitted terrorists back on the streets of America.

    Good job on your first day, idiot.
     
  19. Halldin

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    Not really, huh?

    "It is more difficult than I think a lot of people realize and we are going to get it done, but part of the challenge that you have is that you have a bunch of folks that have been detained, many of whom who may be very dangerous who have not been put on trial or have not gone through some adjudication," Obama said on ABC's "This Week" on Sunday when asked whether he would close the prison in his first 100 days.
    Obama also said he was trying to develop a process that "adheres to rule of law" but "doesn't result in releasing people who are intent on blowing us up."


    Obama to order Guantanamo Bay prison closed - CNN.com
     
  20. PzJgr

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    So far what he says and what he does are two different things.
     
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