S-Boot Tender Tsingtau

Carl what was left or should say formed the 5th S-Flt in Finland was 2-3 Boots from the 2nd S-Flt. they had a slightly different camo job than these tiger stripes, it was a two tone not outline like this particular boot. grey-blue and grey-green long blotches if you will. will look for a pic and post and in fact that is what is camo'd on the Boots in my Tsingtau album.....note the above foto of the two Boots alongside the Tsingtau, the foto taken from the rear

 

Hello Erich,

congratulations to some very interesting and rare S-boot photos

Regards
Kruska

 

that's a nice pic Erich, the cammo looks to be very effective

 

Hi E, looking forward to seeing more of these. I saw a cool pic of a larger type warship-I can't remember what it was? but it too had an interesting camo pattern I never saw before-I don't know what type it was? but I THINK the pic I saw waas fr sale somewhere on the Germania International site??? Can't remember what page though.

 

Hello Carl,

I am dead sure that I have seen this (Baltic cammo photo) in an illustration-S-boot magazin dating from the 60's.
Now it will be quite exiting to find out if "lucky Erich" did actually manage to strike in getting the original photo.

Regards
Kruska

 

Hi Andy, im sure he did-he gets better scores than I do at times ;-D

 

ah ok guys, thanks all for the comments so far.

Kruska let me look : depends on the view of the Boot(s) ~ I own a copy of Kriegsmarine Heft 16 from 1943 on the very front cover is a beauty of a pic of one of the splotched Schnellboots coming right towards the photgrapher, extremely powerful image showing the S-Boots low wide hull low down

 

I wouldn't be surprised if he did snag the original. E/ has some great sources to say the least. I've got a few nice finds in the photograph dept myself--such as the last photo of Wolfgang Luth on the bridge of U 181 just after they came in from a long war patrol and flying lots of kill pennants. I got this one about 6 years ago and rom a dealer who didn't know what he had. Get this, the original asking price was only $5 bucks and when I contacted the guy for his address, he was literally walking out the door for a month long vacation somewhere-was nice enough to stop leaving long enouh to get the pic ready to send and then to mail it that afternoon. This was also without payment from me and I told him i'd send him extra anyway--as appreciation for his halting leaving for vacation just to take care of a customer. BTW, this pic of Wolfgang Luth has never been published before ;-)) Only one other person on this site has a copy of my pic ;-))

 

Hello Carl, Erich -

very interestig news on photos. Is there any "reasonable" way of securing the origin of a photo besides having the negative - which also is not necessarily a proof.
I would appreciate the answer since I have quite a number of Luftwaffe photos from my fathers albums. These albums had been ravaged by some people incl. replacing originals with re prints.
Therefore I am not sure at all times about the origin of these photos.

Regards
Kruska

 

Hi Andy, im not sure but, the only original negative I ever managed to get-was one showing a German Soldier on guard duty and standing in front of his Guard Shack-and he was being relieved by his replacement? That's one photo I had forgotten I had. I need to get a print of it made too as it's a great photo even if the subject is of-center ;-))

I almost forgot, as for the PK pics I have-these could have been anything from single prints to a dozen to perhaps several dozens made. Many of mine I don't think would have had more than a few copies made due to subject matter i/e. most do not have a famous person in it-or represent a famous place.

Picture like that famous Rosenthal pjhotot of the Marines and Corpsman raising the 2nd and larger flag on Mount Suribachi-more than likely had hundreds or even thousands of copies printed because every publication had to have that photo on its front cover.

 

Kruska I have no clue really which pic you are talking of, I have several with two KM PK'S named, but as the camo for 1,2,3,and 5th S-Flt.'s are very similar it is hard to really say whom is pictured. If had a name of a book, phamplet or even the pic to scan and show of course that would help

 

There's good B&W a pic of S-35 and color one of possibly S-39 with a similar camo in the S-BOOTE book by histoires and collections that also has a high quality color two page huge pic of what looks like Tsingtau surrounded by her flottilla. (great book for pics but it looks like the authors used mostly other books rather than original sources for the texts).
But I think I saw that particular one in the book dedicated to light craft of the Ballantines military history series from 1967-70.

 

Hi E, im not sure but I think Andy was talking about the one with the "Tiger Stripe" camo--Andy, please correct me if im wrong? ;-))

Its difficult to concentrate here while watching Sir John Mills, Sessue Hayakawa and James MacArthur in the fine Disney film: Swiss Family Robinson. I've loved that classic since I was knee-high to a Grasshopper ;-))

Now im back on topic with saying---S-boot, S-boot, S-boot ;-D

 

Hello T.O.S,

you could very well be correct as I mentioned having seen this pictures in a 60's publication.

Regards
Kruska

 

Hello Carl and Erich,

yes Carl you are correct in your assumtion.
Good God - the Swiss Fa......- it must be ages since I last saw one of these episodes.

Erich I am not placing my question on behalf of a certain photo but in general, so as to get some idea what could be used in order to saveguard oneself against fraud photos.

So great pictures anyway - please keep em comming.

Regards
Kruska

 

Gents yes I have the French book as well, the pics are all taken from former publications. the colour shots are from the Hugo Bürger book I mentioned in an earlier post showing the Tsingtau and 1st and 2nd S-Boot Flt Boots.

one pic shows a splotched boot with the black eagle holding a torpedo, this is from Kurt Fimmens 1st S-Flt with the Tender Carl Peters in the background. The Tsingtau was the First S-Boot Tender and future Tenders like the Carl Peters and Adolf Lüderitz were much larger, obviously more modern and more AA equipped.

I'll try and get a pic I have of the Tsingtau and anther Tender side by side to show size qualities

again Kruska if you can be more precise as I mention four Flottilles used similar camo for the Baltic, Norway and the 3rd S-Flt took it to the Med as well for a time.

 

Hi Ande--Danke ;-))

E, would that French book be that book you got from me? Im going to also be checking when I get back-to see if there is any other book I have thats of no need here. I know I still have two copies of The Blonde Knight of Germany as well as Tank Killers-just not sure where they are at?

 

ok at least a 1/2 dozen of the album pics are now on camera and will re-size in the coming weeks as they are 3x3 inchs so quite tiny.

A new acquirement this in the era of 1939-1940 when the Tender/Ship was in overall white and going through basic run-up trials as a S-Boot supply ship.

the gent on the rail has a mechanics-engine trade badge on the upper part of his left arm. Obermatrose/Gefreiter rank and the lower patch indicates specialist in Electric Motors with E-III course. The badge is a Cog-wheel with 4-lightning bolts out of the hub.

please note an extremely rare pic showing the life-preserver ring with Tsingtau marking and the 1. Schnellbootsflottille plus the Obermatrose cap talley indicating the 1.Schnellbootsflottille 1.

 

Hi Andy, sorry about not seeing tjhi spost but "WE" can get you a copy of the movie if you want it? Just let me know.

 

Great addition E. The pic says it all ;-))