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  1. CAC

    CAC Ace of Spades

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    hmmm...not sure about this...Christianity is a splinter group of Judaism...(Christ was a Jew).
    He rejected Judaism and founded a new church. Christians worship "Christ" and is at its centre...Jews worship God and is at the centre of their religion. Islam refers to Christ as a "prophet" but not THE prophet (Mohammed). We only worship the same god as we all agree on monotheism.
    Interestingly in the years not documented on Christ - he went somewhere for 10 or more years - its thought he went to India and studied Buddhism...some reason for this is there is no mention of God walking on water in the Jewish texts, but there are stories of Buddha walking on water...so to creating food from other things - fish and bread for example in Buddhist texts but no where else.
     
  2. Otto

    Otto GröFaZ Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    What are you referring to? Your opening post mentions the word "Muslim" on one occasion: "Might be wise to reflect that Jews, Christians and Muslims are all are branches of the same tree." How would that substitution even make sense, never mind get you banned?

    In any case m kenny, you are missing my point entirely. I'm not talking about religion, I've only ever referenced law. The Sharia legal system is undemocratic and is outright bad. For some reason you keep referencing how bad Christianity & Judaism is and this is just not relevant. I'm not making a religious argument, I'm making a legal one. I think your pivot to religion on this topic is indicative of what you think I'm saying, or what you think I'm implying, rather that what I'm actually saying.
     
  3. YugoslavPartisan

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    According to description provided in the video this woman had sex outside of the wedlock.

    "The woman along with the man she was accused of having sex with, faced the brutal punishment as having sex outside of wedlock is against strict Sharia law."

    Seems like the man she had sex with was punished too but beating of women is far more better news for western media than beating of some random unimportant guy.
     
  4. wm.

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    Non-marital sex is 100 lashes for the man and stoning for the woman.
    The orginal uploader, Tarek Fatah on Twitter doesn't say it was non-marital sex so it's simply unknown.
     
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    They say there nothing has been investigated yet, and such mortality among infants were to be expected at that time.

    You seem don't understand something. The infants the nuns collected weren't going to become outstanding members of the society: doctors, writers, innovators.
    The babies were kicked to the curb by the Irish people themselves. If not for the nuns they most likely ended up in the nearest river or in the ocean.

    The nuns weren't air dropped there by the evil Pope, they weren't any different from the women outside the convent. I they were shitty it was because the entire society was shitty too.

    Such places, where the weak are abused existed/exist all around the world. In the Stalinist Russia and in the US.
    Even today it would hard to find an "orphanage survivor" who has something nice to say about it.
     
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    The shitty Sweden’s self-declared first feminist government in the world arrives in Iran fully hijabed, despite solemn promises they would fight for women's rights all around the world, and adopt a feminist foreign policy.

    They are much bolder here.

    Published by Masih Alinejad - a leading Iranian women's rights activist, now in exile.

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  7. m kenny

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    Here we have a Pole who comes from a very Catholic Country posting photos of women wearing headscarves and calls it a 'hijab'.
    I only have to think back a few years when every single women who entered a Catholic Church had to cover her head.
     
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    I was talking about the opening posts in the thread. The ones where Muslims in general are traduced.

    Ah so it was mercy killing then.
     
  9. YugoslavPartisan

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    Not only that. In Slavic cultures it was a custom for woman to wear a scarf wrapped around her head. On every single old photo of my grand mothers and great-grand mothers they are wearing it. Media makes a big deal with hijabs nowadays. Burkas on the other hand are different problem.

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  10. Takao

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    What's even more amusing, is that this same Pole has been openly critical of foreigners not observing the laws and customs of the country those foreigners are in...And, here he is...Being openly critical of foreigners observing the laws and customs of the country they are in.
     
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    The scarves weren't customary or religious pieces, they served a utilitarian purpose.
    They protected women working long hours outdoors, this is why they were mostly worn in villages, and this is why they used such strange clothes there. It was all about protection from environment. It wasn't like they traveled everywhere in cars, or HVAC buses.
    And headscarves are mainstream fashion even today, and as then they are worn by choice.

    It seems you vastly overestimates the power of the Church in this very Catholic Country.
    Most people didn't/don't give a shit what the Church says if it contradicts their interests.
     
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    Flat out lie. No woman would have ever entered a Catholic Church without a headscarf and if one did try she would have been made very uncomfortable by the people staring at here. Please do not try and tell an Irishman about the power of the church
     
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    The opening post in the thread does not use the term "Muslim", only "Sharia" You are seeing what you want to see.
     
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    Oh Good Lord (pun intended), there is no legitimate moral equivalence between Islamic Sharia law and any current religious laws or rules of ANY other creed around the world. Strictly applied Sharia law is what justifies (to them) making sex slaves of these young Yazidi women and children in Syria. It is what justifies throwing homosexuals off buildings, mutilation of petty criminals, theft from any infidel, murder. No other religion is doing things like that - and what some Christian or Buddhist or Hindu did in the 9th century is a false moral equivalency. Religions around the world have humanized over the centuries. Islam was humanizing as well, until this fairly recent insanity where some are going back to the 8th century rules.

    Somebody said Orthodox Jews view women in the same way as Fundamentalist Islam? Absolute BS. I grew up around an entire community of strict Orthodox Jews, and while they have some odd customs, women being subservient isn't one of them. In fact, women rule the house - they have the final say in any matter within the home. Traditionally (though it's changing), the man is the breadwinner and the woman is the final arbiter within the home and family.

    What is frightening is that if you google recent polls about Sharia in western countries you learn that a majority of Muslims in Europe favor Sharia Law - one recent one was something like 65% of British Muslims wanting Sharia law imposed within Britain. Polls of American Muslims are much lower, 30-35% but that is still a number that is worrisome.
     
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    Even young girls had to have their head covered in the church. The mantilla was the preferred hijab.
     
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    Let's try a game, spot the women wearing nothing there.

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    People are expected to dress appropriately during religious ceremonies. And are expected to take off their headgear as a sign of respect (and presumably to catch cold faster). Except women who aren't. It's a privilege, not a burden.
     
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    What I hate is when Catholics stone women for not wearing a hat in church. Oh wait, they don't do that because it's just a custom not a law.
     
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    Or not. Militant fundamental religion is a problem especially if it seeks to impose a theocracy. However the efforts of Jews in that regard have been essentially non existent in Europe or the Americas in recent years and the Christian efforts have been minor in numbers or disguised to various degrees. Even the Communist have pretty much given up. Islam on the other hand ....
     
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    I live with several Muslim neighbours. I have known one large Muslim family since I was a child. I have never ever in all those years been broached or bothered by any of them about anything. The only religious person who lied to me. tricked me and then used underhand methods against me was a very senior priest at my last school. Another Priest used to walk around naked with us when we were getting changed after sports. Liked to sit with his legs wide open flashing his dick.
    What pains me is the way that any crime by a Muslim is taken to be the fault of every Muslim.
    Perhaps I should blame every Christian for the war on homosexuals being carried out by US Evangelical Groups in Uganda?
    What about the Christian 'Anti-balaka Groups' in CAR?
    Which Christian here is going to step up and accept group blame for his bretheren?
     
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