Snipers Are Cowards - Michael Moore

Since we're doing this in the Stump now, I read an article in the paper today about the movie "American Sniper", and in it was the claim made by Michael Moore about snipers being cowards and all. It also made reference to Sen Paul Rand (R-Tex) making a tweet about the hero and protagonist of the same movie when he was killed. The tweet was along the lines of "those who live by the sword, die by the sword". Apparently he felt the same about snipers as Michael Moore.

When I was in the Army, I had the opportunity to go to the 82nd Airborne Division Sniper School. Before I put my papers in to go, I had second thoughts about doing it, based on my line of thought at the time that I didn't feel that zipping the OPFOR as a sniper was not as honorable as ripping him a new a$$h0le with a bayonet or obliterating him with my trusty M-60. So I put in for Recondo School instead. Funny how the 20 year old mind works. I don't consider the sniper's trade cowardly in any meaning of the term. I just didn't want to do it. It was a personal thing for me.

 

That's the story here.

Twatter drives the 'news' agenda far too much.
Easily outraged can get outraged at 140 character comments.
Lazy journos get filler copy.

Don't get me wrong, I like Twatter, but only used in certain ways.
It's capacity for F-wittery is as strong as it's power for good.

 

That was the father, ex-senator, Ron Paul...not his son, current Senator, Rand Paul. Ron Paul's tweet was also made about two years ago, when Chris Kyle was killed.
https://twitter.com/RonPaul/status/298477312876355585

As always, when a politician "opens mouth...inserts shoe store." Ron Paul, posted this on Facebook to clarify his tweet.

 

I agree here. The ease of social media to denigrate someone and tout political beliefs makes me ill. It's simple and quick an usually, IMO, a reactionary impulse. I have found very little evidence to suggest that this use of the World Wide Web has any positives other than to spew political views. Moore has the same rights as any human to have his opinion on this facet of the military. His opinion is noted and ridiculous to me as a historian. However, he now achieved his goal of getting people to talk about it. He is a journalist. I do not despise or care for him. I can agree or disagree with him at my leisure, but placing your words on social media and sparking your followers to react is the ticket to his profession.

 

Dr. James I. Robertson, Jr.

 

I don't really mind the web being a sewer in places. That can be tremendously entertaining in it's own way - I follow quite a few nutters on Twatter because they can be very funny.
It's the outraged responses to ephemeral things that get to me, they're what often triggers the meeja storms as they're blown out of all proportion or relevance. Things that wouldn't travel at all previously can now reach millions - many things that nobody in their right mind should probably give a toss about. 'I'm Offended!' is like a new and growing cult.
Massive teacup we play in - if I see a storm; I might roll my eyes and look away or watch it curiously from a distance, but maybe try not help it along too much.*


*Unless it'll really make me laugh to do so. Gotta have some fun, and many walk around with great big virtual 'Press Me' buttons on their heads...

 

That's why I don't use or follow Twitter...I see enough of that at work.

 

Twatter's interesting though. Multi-layered. I was immensely cynical at first but now think I made a mistake.
Much of it is obviously Beiboids and other mentalists, but gradually set it up as a decent link-feed and it's absolutely nonpareil.
Same as all these electronic comms systems, from Friendface to forums like this; they are mostly what you choose to make of them.

It's also fun working out who's following who by some of the threads started on more wordy platforms.

 

Avon summarizes much of how I feel about Twitter.

http://youtu.be/SWHLU8fwi80?t=7m48s

 

Which would apply to almost all forms of open electronic communication.

 

Oh I don't know. There is some value in listening to what ever he has to say about fitness, diet, grooming and dress and doing the opposite.

What's he tipping in at these days, about 375?

 

Upon reading what he actually tweeted

"My uncle [was] killed by sniper in WW2. We were taught snipers were cowards. Will shoot you in the back. Snipers aren't heroes. And invaders are worse."

Based on my reading he is simply stating what he was taught, In no way does that statement give me the impression he was stating that as his own personnel belief.

Once again the media is just taking something out of context to sell more papers/subscriptions.

 

The way I read it is the first three sentences are what he was taught. The last two are his opinion (the last sentence for sure, anyway -- in-line with his "US oil imperialism" BS). Just my 2 cents...

But this whole thing reminded me of Mr. Moore. I haven't heard that name in years. I'm surprised he's still relevant.

 

Cowards? Considering the fact that they often tried to slow down the enemy and if I am correct, they often were caught or killed by mortars or artillery fire, because sooner or later their position was found out, and they were killed one way or another as all the fire power was concentrated to their position. The same goes for artillery forward observers. Just my two cents.

 

totally agree here...I'm entertained by the comment sections

 

ha..good

 

The following story should clarify the hypocrisy of Michael Moore. His big deal ever since his breakout documentary "Bowling for Columbine" made him rich, is that people shouldn't be allowed to own firearms. Of course, he has armed bodyguards for himself, but then he's a rich guy. He's important. More important than some convenience store clerk in a shady part of town... Ordinary people shouldn't have the right to self defense with a firearm, but rich socialists like himself are above the rules that apply to the proles.

His bodyguards shouldn't have to obey the law.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/2005/01/20/michael-moore-bodyguard-arrested-on-airport-gun-charge/

 

Nothing cowardly about isolating yourself for days and at the mercy of your enemy. Once spotted, it is a tough displacement.

 

Agreed

 

Most will consider an insult from him a much greater honor than a compliment.

????
A role model for making documentaries? Are we talking about the same individual here?
The one that never makes any attempt to present both sides of an issue?
The one that fabricates events and data to support his position?
The one that eventually quite referring to one of his films as a documentary because he had been sued over so many of the fallacies in it?

Moore is a propagandist at best and a rather incompetent one at that.