Sturmtiger

I was just asking if it could have changed the course of the war I didnt say it could

 

but the real waist of gas and time wasnt the sturmtiger it was the jagdtiger .

 

it was short suppy(caused by the bombing campaign of the allies), nor the use, all engines suffered from this, from planes, bombers, car, lorries, tanks. the majority of planes at the end of ww 2 lay with theirs gas tanks empy at the many bases, production was high but no gas

 

well the sturmtiger got 2 miles to the gallon .

 

Nearer to the other way around according to that website:

"Fuel consumption was 450 liters per 100km [1.8 US gallons per mile]"

 

Fair enough then, no it couldn't.

(apologees if I seemed a bit argumentative in my posts, and welcome to the forum as well )

 

its a beast though it caught my eye when I was reading my tank book

 

Yes, it was a beast of a tank. For some reason some German planning genius decided that there was a need for a bunker-killer tank in the German arsenal, which arrived at the front at a time when all Germany did was withdraw. The enemy had no solid fortifications anyway, and the Germans weren't going to assault them even if they did; so why waste such a huge amount of resources on a tank that was too slow, used too much fuel, was built in too small numbers, and simply did not have a purpose?

Many actual tanks and tank destroyers in the German arsenal, such as the Jagdpanther, the Nashorn and the Tiger series, were more suited and more efficient at killing Allied tanks than the Sturmtiger. Some of them had comparable armour but better mobility and carried many many more rounds. In short they were better machines. Yet they didn't win Germany the war either.

 

I dunno, to me it looks somehow comical, this hugely wide but absurdly short barrel sticking out of a solid chasis/superstructure... :-?

I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

 

the E-100 looks nice to but the didnt even finsh one well almost one

 

The Sturmmörser-Tiger's side and rear armour coule be penetrated by the short 75 mm M3 gun of the M4 at 100 meters, and since the Sturmmörser-Tiger didn't have a rotating turret, it would have been almost impossible to defend itself if attacked from the sides or the rear. This was less of a problem for the Tiger, which could rotate its turret to either side (90 degrees) in 15 seconds.

The Sturmmörser-Tiger was quite fuel-efficient, in terms of how many tons of steel could be moved per liter of gasoline used, however the amount of fuel used must be seen in connection with how it could otherwise have been used.

The Germans actually hadbeen in need of tanks to destroy strongpoints, however this was primarily on the western front (which was why the Sturmpanzer was made).

Christian

 

I always thought that the Sturmtiger was ordered after the experiences in Stalingrad (as a means of knocking down buildings in urban fighting)

 

15 seconds

15 seconds is forever when another tank has you is his sights. 2 or 3 rounds worth. you lose.

 

Not if they are beyond the range where they can hit you (and since the average combat range on the Western Front was about 600 m., the M4 would have to drive 500 m. in 15 seconds, or the equivilant of 120 km./h., in order to get within sufficient range...

Christian

 

No.

 

Yes, of course, the russians changed their intentions and germany could regroup there, somewhere near moscow. After a long year germany had enough Sturmtiger to retake Paris, perhaps even drive your troops back to the sea. Imagine thousends of Sturmtiger :kill:

 

I admire your sarcasm...

 

The story of the Wehrmacht's life. The same goes with most of the monsters the German R&D team came up with.

No single object, save the atom bomb, could have saved Germany for another year. The sturmtiger is an assualt tank, which like Roel said, was useless to the Wehrmact of post 1942. The tactical use of this tank was only so much.

And not to mention the infantry who would have no problem taking out a lumbering behemoth with little to no anti-personal weaponry.

 

Which strongpoints are these? The Western Allies did not have or take the time to built anything like fortified positions, beyond field fortifications, in ETO.

 

There was need for assualt guns on the Western Front during the earlier years because of the many French, Dutch, and Belgian fortifications in the area.