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Discussion in 'The Stump' started by Ben Dover, Nov 12, 2016.

  1. lwd

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    I don't believe he claimed any were. The point he was making I believe was that such a behavior would be against EU regulations and thus the workers were awarded protection vs such a requirement. The implication was that it is not against British law or perhaps that it would be easier to either change or get around such laws.
     
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    Some (the majority) caved to the threats as they were warned they could lose their jobs. Myself and the others (all unionised) stood firm and told the firm to do its worst and see what happened. They saw sense left us alone and we ended up with a 2 tier workforce.
    The Working Time Directive is one on the main bogey-men of the EU haters. All it does is make it illegal to force anyone to work more than 40ish hours a week. You can agree to work more than 40 hours with your employer and 'overtime' does not come in to it. As is usual with these things the UK threw a hissy fit because they see no reason why (for example) Doctors should be made to work 100+ hours a week so they applied for and got an exemption.
    The rabid right/UKIP seem to believe it is OK to force all the unemployed youth up chimneys as part of their desire to return to 'Victorian Values'.
     
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    Based on what?
     
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    Your flexibility notwithstanding, I believe you should (re-)read what lwd posted earlier.
     
  6. lwd

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    Didn't you read it? I posted both URL's and an excerpt.
     
  7. lwd

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    Interesting. Looks like the EU law may also be protecting some firms from themselves. A while ago I read some literature on the effect of long work hours. If people started with a 40 hour work weak and then went to 48+ hours weekly productivity showed some significant gains (may even have exceeded the previous hourly rates) but after a month or so it declined and after 6 months or so weekly productivity was actually below what they were getting with a 40 hour week. I'm pretty sure this was a US study so overtime would have been involved for hours in excess of 40. In essence excessive hours can be a bad business decision.
     
  8. m kenny

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    By one of those odd coincidences the UK has just released a White Paper on its Brexit aims. Turns out they are so desperate to 'prove' UK rights are better than EU Rights that they included a graph that falsely claims UK workers get 14 weeks holiday a year!
    Another example of the NHS Spending lie?


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38836906
     
  9. lwd

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    14 weeks! I consider moving to the UK for that. That's more than teachers get.

    *** posted this then realized it doesn't add much to the discussion admins feel free to delete ****
     
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    Other than the urge to laugh, not really.
     
  11. green slime

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    At least you were entertained...
     
  12. m kenny

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    Another example of the meddling nanny-state EU interfering in internal issues. Who gave these self-appointed busybodies the right to dictate to others and enforce their lefty bleeding heart policies of a sovereign state. Let us make a stand and help defend poor innocent Russia from this evil Empire.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38841716

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    I bet the Germans are behind it all!
     
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    Not sure which is saddest someone who has lost and does not understand they lost or someone who lost and cannot accept it. Either way the weeping and wailing are providing great entertainment.

    Fortunately for our EU loving residents there is still freedom of movement so if they find the EU such a wonderful place and believe the UK is now so undesirable why are there not flocking in their millions to the ports to flee what they must perceive to be the birth of an imminent hell on earth.
     
  14. m kenny

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    The Germans eh...them Fokkers are everywhere.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9ItTrosTB0
     
  15. m kenny

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    De-regulation is the god of the alt-right. Watch this and see what it would mean for you.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7IuBT7zUnA
     
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    Ha...Lucky#313- Brian
    In a nutshell, nailed it...Kind of like the easily replaceable hollywood/music 'entertainers', who said they would come to Canada if Emperor Trump made office...Where are they
     
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    Odd how those who whinge loudest for 'free speech' are the quickest to try and remove all those who do not agree with them.
     
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    Err...yes. Hollywood liberals said they'd move here...But so far-zero is the number, which really isn't a number at all.
    i am ok with it. Really don't want any more snowflakes here, as we are full up.
    People don't want to riot in minus 20c here...which explains a lot about their work ethic.
     
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    I like getting overtime.
    I like having a job.
    I like the idea of low corporation tax to safeguard having a job.
    I like the idea of my job giving me rights such as overtime pay rate being higher than my regular, I like that it says I must be safe and have a dry warm place and that there must be toilets and periods of rest such as coffee breaks and lunch.
    These are all perks of working in a country such as mine, it's a blue collar job, but one with rights I'm entitled to and regulations of safety in place; a job only probably made possible through huge investors in various different construction firms (I'm an agency worker n London, I work on all the huge buildings in London, was working on the Shard last week) benefiting from some tax loop hole ; I wouldn't be surprised, but the point is, I've got a job and a dream (and other things).
    Why would I want to be forced to work more hours per week when Saturday and Sunday is (in my job) time and a half, so it's my rate of pay plus half.
     
  20. m kenny

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    Err.....no. I think you will find Zero is a very important number. You should thank them there Muslims for letting 'us' back in on the secret in the middle ages.

    Pitty Canada missed out on Rush.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rush-limbaugh-ill-leave-country-over-health-bill/
     

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