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  1. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Aquila non capit muscas

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    Here is a website I stumbled upon, on art on totalitarian countries.

    Architecture, sculpture, painting, etc. Art as a tool for the State.

    Totalitarian Art, Professor Werckmeister

    Sculptor Josef Thorak's atelier, designed by Albert Speer:
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    Marshal Voroshilov Skiing, can you believe this sicophancy?
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    The Führer, by Arno Brekker
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    Also running :lol: :​
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    Plus many more, go see it, it's worth it!
     
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    Slipdigit Good Ol' Boy Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    good site, Za. There were some good posters there for the Red Rabbi.
     
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    Za Rodinu Aquila non capit muscas

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    That statue was never made! Well, the palace itself was never finished as well, it was interrupted by the war and the construction was cannibalised for materials.

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    In any case to build this Lazar Kaganovitch (S.O.B. big time!) had ordered the demolition of the Cathedral of Christ the Saviour in 1931 to put in the Palace in its place. Putin ordered the the building demolished and the Cathedral rebuilt in its former location, inaugurated in 2000. Boris Yeltsin is buried there!

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    See? Much prettier :)
     
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    Very interesting indeed, you don't see these every day.
     
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    Za Rodinu Aquila non capit muscas

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    I have a book on Nazi art crated somewhere, very interesting. Also I inherited from my father a couple of books on Nazi architecture, presented to him by the German embassy cultural office during wartime, he was a civil engineer by training and as such he was a target for such largesse. A lot of Portuguese (and other people's too) architecture of the period shows heavy influence, and I have to admit I do appreciate the architectural style.

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    Too bad they did not get to finish the building. You could have gotton an office on the top floor and be in the clouds today. :D

    I would like to give you some rep points but the computer won't let me right now. I had never read anything about the palace before and will look for more about it. My type of office building !
     
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    I dunno, Soviet style air conditioning tended to be lousy!

    What a mixture! French 1937 International Exhibition, Genius of Fascism in the foreground, in the background from left to right: German pavillion, Soviet and Portuguese :D

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    Soviet Socialist Realism: the statue at the top of the Soviet pavillion above.

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    On the other side of the same square, Josef Thorak's Comradeship!

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    Other people liked it on the grand scale :)
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    but the title of the thread is Totalitarian Art, so:
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    Let's call it a diversion on my behalf then, I was actually trying to save your live before our American friends decided to lynch you for having put their national symbol of Democracy in the totalitarian art list.:)
     
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    That was the aesthetics of the times... Whatcha mean saving my life? I wasn't saying anything about 2nd Amendment :D Anyway I covered my butt with that Norman Rockwell's Freedom of Speech ;)

    And there was/is Socialist Realism.
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    a Vichy Poster.


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    Could be worse...

    Nazi or anti-nazi kitsch?
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    Speaking of kitsch, a Horst Wessel Lied musicbox!
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    Oh my God, I thought that the ugliest kitch design was made in the 70s, but that pre war music box beats it all. Don't forget to goose step when you play it. I kind of like the symbolism of Mannaken Piss having a pee on the swastika..... Good show Za.
     
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    What amazes me about the Tolitarian building plans - is their grandiose nature - when their people starve and do without basic necessities. Absolutely narcistic.
     
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    The construction projects might be argued to make economic sense as make-work projects and infrastructure building, like the Autobahnen for instance (or the Hoover Dam elsewhere). But this would require a longer discussion for which I'm not prepared...

    On another tack look at this Dux (Mussolini), 1930.
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    (Fede in Mussolini = Faith in Mussolini!)
    These abstract and truly modernist representations would mean an immediate Konzentratzionlager in Germany for the authors, while they would be the way forward in Italy. Quite a different character in art.

    Soviet art was also quite liberal, investigative, free to explore approaches. That is, before Stalinism's Socialist Realism clamped down on it.
     

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