Turret modifications

:lol:

 

But in the same theory Grieg,wouldn't it be more possible then since the Isrealis are hardly people to waste time on unfounded theories,this theory is likely to be true because the nature of their people does not lead me to believe that they would do something unfounded.However that is only one observation and i do get what you mean Grieg.

Don't worry Grieg,i still love you brother,albiet an older one .

 

It had somehow come to me that,what if it was there for aesthetic purpose?

I think Oli and Grieg would be staring into bloank space for a few moment eh?

 

No, it is there for a very pragmatic purpose - to promote an early detonation of HEAT (etc) rounds, which are the most common threat faced by Israeli tanks.

 

kaiser wrote:

Ricky beat me to it. I t definitely serves a purpose as Ricky pointed out to prematurely detonate HEAT (shaped charge) rounds. I just don't think it would be very useful against kinetic (long rod penetrators,usually) weapons.

 

The problem is if it works.

 

I was the one who first said it for use against HEAT. I just pointed out that it MIGHT have some effect vs APFSDS. Not guaranteed, not consistent and definitely not 100%.
Forget I even mentioned it... :lol:

 

Now now Oli,you know we are about as looney as the villagers in Amorica when it's abit of the intellectual fight....

"These Enthusiasts are crazy!"

 

Bit late for that now...

*bangs head with stapler*

No, it's gone now!

 

Yeehah, I knew I was right :lol:
Grieg wrote:

Just got hold of a copy of Technology of Tanks by RM Ogorkiewicz and right there on page 365:

Paraphrase: A variation - perforated plates are coming into service as one measure.

OK, reasons why chains are not in general use? The Israelis are the only ones that regularly operate in urban areas, NATO AFVs don't expect to get shot from behind on a modern battlefield and there's nowhere to put chains on the front and sides without adding a framework (look at the stand-off distances involved) which adds considerably to the size of the AFV.
Reasons why chains are used - they may have some effect vs KE and do have an effect vs CE, they are cheap, they are (probably) an officially-approved field mod, they add negligible weight, zero bulk (as fitted to Merkava - they don't expand the vehicle's envelope at all).

 

Um, so basically it is an anti-shaped charge device that might have value against KE weapons, but we don't know for sure.

 

That's it - take the glory out my vindication :lol:
Yup. That's it in a nutshell, and it only took three pages of posts to get that conclusion

 

oli wrote:

Please repost with the snipped portion intact. It seems to change context in the middle of the sentence.

 

Sorry, the book was on loan for less than two weeks and I just jotted that bit down (apart from some ballistics equations).
The apparent discontinuity is because the first sentence continues with a sideline about the similarities with (IIRC) skirt armour in WWII and its effectiveness, and then comes back to the topic, I should have copied it out better