What if Spain had joined the Axis?

You have no idea how many Divisions the Germans had do you.
This may help.
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The British and their colonies had a handful of Divisions mainly either already occupied or awaiting a German invasion of Britain.

 

So you can not name me one historian that claims Gibraltar was not of strategic importance as I thought.

 

Japan on side but also the far more powerful Soviet Union against with its 400 Divisions.
In June 1940 Hitler has 167 Divisions.
The USA only mobilised 91 Divisions in the entire war.

 

I stillare waiting for a proof that your historians are saying what you are claiming they were saying

 

By April 1945 the Germans had 307 Divisions in the field.

 

Im still waiting for just one single historian who says Gibraltar is not of strategic importance.

 

167 German divisions ? HAHA

77 operational divisions

57 partly operational divisions

23 non operational divisions

Total :157

Source:Friessner:The Blitzkrieglegend P 33

 

Wrong :303 units with the name of division

 

The number of divisions equals your strength rather then the size and capabilities of your division? Damn by his logic lets break all our divisions down to 1,000 man units BritishEmpire, The end number of divisions does not mean squat if they are poorly equipped, trained and supplied, Which past 1941 they where.

 

What?
Maths.

 

Back to the ridiculous I see.
Lets get your position clear do you think the USA could defeat Germany with no war in the East?

 

Based on the larger man power pool and greater industry hell yes, No doubt about it.

 

BritishEmpire, You put a lot of faith in that the Germans had lot's of division while ignoring the reduction in divisional size, equipment and training quality. Ignoring all of those flaw's in your argument please tell us how 300+ division's did not survive in 1945 and defeat the Allies? The number of divisions doesn't mean squat, Look at NA (Yes I bring up the Diggers a lot but Im proud of em ), One Aussie division with British support killed, wounded or captured over 3 times there number for the loss of less then 1,000 casualties.

 

And then there are the Chinese Divisions....A division is not always a division. Perhaps the newer Battle groups would be a better term. Although I know Germany described some units as such. The division even today is not what it seems. Battle groups and their role and strengh then as now should be disected rather than placed on a board.

 

Too true, Even the ADF is switching our armed forces into various 'Battle Groups', These days the division is obsolete. They are too large and make fast moving fluid command difficult with today's weapons and technology. Even back in WWII I have noticed that smaller unit's tended to go fairly well even when up against a larger force as they where in the right situation able to more easily adapt.

 

And,of course,the man is ignoring the divisional slice (if he knows what this means)

 

The Americans had 64 Divisions in Europe in 1945 if I remember rightly how many do you think they would need to defeat a Nazi Germany not at war with the USSR?
And how on earth would it be possible to land enough forces at anyone time to do so?

 

They would be all fully equipped if they had no war with the USSR.
You should not look at history through a Nationalist or Patriotic bias either.