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  1. magnoliasouth

    magnoliasouth New Member

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    I am plane-ly challenged (get it? plane-ly? eh, whatever:D) when it comes to aircraft in WWII. I found this article today: I have never heard about the weeping Chamberlain stork. Anyway, can you tell me what aircrafts those are? Are they different ones or all the same? Only one photo shows a complete plane.

    Many thanks to all those big brains out there!
     
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    At least one German Bf 109 of some sort. Not in the Pacific, so mine is just a guess
     
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    Obviously not a pelican...All 109s
    This logo originated with 2 Staffel Jagdgeschwader 71 (JG 71) prewar. They called themselves the "Chamberlain Staffel" after the then current Prime Minister of Britain. The figure is a "verschnupfte Rabe" or "runny-nosed Raven". Those are not tears. The logo was used without the text.
     
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    Well guesses are often very helpful! It gives you a place to start.
    Coincidentally, last night I was trying to figure out which fighter would have been used during the early part of the war, during the blitz. It looked to me like the most common was in fact the BF 109! I compared it but I couldn't tell.
    Right?! In the bottom right photo, the bird looks white, so I went with stork. I never would have guessed it was a raven! Why is the Raven brown though?
    YES! As I noted above, I wondered if that was the case. Good to hear it confirmed.
    I guess they really didn't know much about them at the time. I'm also a wee bit offended that Nazis were using "God's punishment" to justify what they were doing, but big sigh, oh well.

    Thanks so much to the both of you! You answered like lightening.
     
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    It was later used by JG 51 - Also 109s...Your picture shows a 109E
    The Raven was probably brown so you can still see the detail of the picture...

    Brown necked Raven:
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    Merely a cynical acknowledgement by them that much of their population were Christians. They actually tried hard to do away with the Church, even launched their own Nazi version.
    Plenty of priests with a conscience in the camps
     
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    Wow! So it IS brown. I had no idea those things existed. Beautiful bird, actually.
    Right. I did know about that. There was this one church in France though. They hid Jewish orphans there and they never did get caught. I've often wondered why.

    Also, the Nazis were after Pope John Paul during the war. They searched a building he was in, it may have even been his home (not sure though) but they searched everything except one lone closet. Guess where he was hiding? Divine intervention, I suppose.

    :_rolltide:
     
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    The politics were secular, the troops were, for the most part, Christian. Hitler did not like Jesus or God because they were "competition" for the hearts, mind's and souls of the Germans. Of course the Generation that was raised under the Hitler Youth was a different matter; they were trained to be atheists, heartless and soulless and Hitler was their only god.
     
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