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  1. Knight Templar

    Knight Templar Miserable Cretin

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    Hmmm... that doesn't sound right. The pin is made by Meyer, so it should be an American unit.
    No, the poster never arrived :confused:
    Movies are great: what've you got?
     
  2. Stefan

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    Carl, it looks too small to be a a flanders legion lion, they were about an inch and a half across I reckon, it looks like either a belgian collar badge of some kind or (the option i reckon to be most likely) a polish divisional collar patch. I couldent tell you what division but the shape is perfect. The other thing is that I dont think it is a flanders lion, the flanders lion has different details on the neck/mane and the tail. I will see if I can find out which division it is later.

    Crazy, I dont partake of the wacky backy myself but I dont have a particular problem with it unless people smoke it on busses or in public, I cant stand the smell (a little too much like stale urine for my liking). I didnt think people were too mashed in Amsterdam, not as bad as some people i know over here (and it is still illegal in London).

    I am hardly surprised pigs trotters are illegal substances, they can be sharpe, I mean you may bash the pilot over the head with one and then jam his mouth full of peanut butter or smear it over his face (man those nut chunks can be sharp).

    Carl, the main reason I was in the costal region is that I was staying with friends, it is a fantastic area though particularly in winter. My brother went to the hunsruch (sp?) area, he loved it.

    I wonder how we could make this more off topic....
     
  3. C.Evans

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    Hi Knight--sorry about that never arriving. The movie I can give you is a war movie--"Escape to Athena" With Roger Moore as the German Colonal, David Niven, Telly Savalas, Richard Roundtree, Elliott Gould, Stephanie Powers (as Moores loves interest) and Sonny Bono (as the comedy part of the movie) There was a very unexpected guest appearance in the movie---William Holden as a matter of fact. Elliott Gould is walking to the Kommodants offices and he stops--backs up and says: "Are you still Here?" then you see he is talking to William Holden.

    As for the insignia--I know of no American unit insignia that is the Rampant Lion--or Flanders Lion--unless for some reason that this is a Regimental badge of some sort?

    Can you describe this badge--the backside? Does it have a long gnurrled pin going downwards and mounted behind the pin which usually is about 1 inch long.

    If so--it definately ie European--or European made. I have some badges like that that are ww2 German. For instance--I have one that has 3 Geman badges in miniture on it--EK1 and EK2 and Black Wound Badge. I have another which was given to me by U 181 vets--which is a Uboat stickpin, and the last one I have is an Imperial German Regimental or Divisional Badge for the 51st Infantry Regiment or Division. These were also most usually worn on the left lapel of their suits.

    If it turns out that it is American made--i dont have a clue--can you post a pic of the backside of this pin/badge? If so--I can better tell you about it.

    Hi Stefan--thanks for your input. I truely believe that this is European and stick pins did have badges of that size on them--case in point--my Imp Ger Regimental/Divisional stick pin is of similar size and construction as is Knights pin/badge is.

    The insignia has to be European as there is no Rampant lion insignia that I know of that is to do with a US unit. Now the only US unit I can think og that uses a lion on its patch is the 106th inf Div? which was decimated at the BoB--most surrendered. I think they were called: The Golden Lions. Now they did have a lion on its patch--which was gold in color (lion) the background was another color--perhaps blue?

    Sorry guys--thats the best I can do--until I can see the back to this pin/badge. :D
     
  4. Knight Templar

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    C.E: It's the regular screw-back, common to early WW2 pins. Marked, "Meyer, NY." As you know, this company was the largest private manufacturer of these pins. This has to be a DI for an American unit.
     
  5. Knight Templar

    Knight Templar Miserable Cretin

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    This might be time for a contest.
    ID the DI and I'll mail the winner the following:
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    U.S. Navy recognition slide of an Me-163. (EXC cond.)

    [ 17. January 2003, 11:33 PM: Message edited by: Knight Templar ]
     
  6. Stevin

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    Stefan, Thanks for your kind words for my city. And as you know the word and meaning of "Gezellig", I consider you Dutch... :D Funny that there apparently isn't a English word for Gezellig...Well, actually it isn't funny but rather regretable...

    I love my city, but there is a lot to complain about it, and being an Amsterdammer, I do. But let's not go there...

    Oh, and I can relate to finding an American in your bed! Believe it or not, that happens every bloody night here! :D

    Crazy, If you are even in the neighbourhood, lemme know and i'll show you around. [​IMG] But that goes for all of you. Amsterdam Has it, gentlemen! OK, enough of this shameless promotion of a city that I have heard described as Sodom and Gamorrha as well.

    Is the 'favorite city' thread still operational? New York! Love that city! Also loved the city of Rome. Wonderfull to see all the ancient buildings and remnants.

    I don't know about sending Cuban cigars through the mail. The US have these top of the bill sniffer machines, as the customs people deem it unsavory to let sniffer-dogs sniff out anthrax packages. And Knight, I do believe that dogs DO smell the forbidden stuff through coffee...

    As to your pin: I asked some collectors I know who collect Flemish Colloboration stuff, and none of them know it and are pretty sure this has nothing to do with the Flemish volunteers. So, Your guess that it must be american might come true. I just wonder which unit might want an apparant Flemish Lion as their badge? Was there some Belgian-American unit? The search continues...
     
  7. Stefan

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    I have poked around and if it is US insignia it I think I have it, US 28th infantry regt. They were known as the 'Black Lions' and their regimental DI was a Black Lion rampant on a white background, Thats what it was on cloth patches anyhow I cant see if yours is on gold or white but it looks about the same as the one you showed us. Is that enough, do I win? Here are three sources:
    http://www.saundersinsignia.com/group015.html
    http://www.militaria.com/8th/WW2/EandGco.htm
    http://www.28thinfantry.org/

    What you think Knight? That enough?

    Stevin, it is a shame that we dont have a word for it, there are lots of words in other languages that we dont have, gemeutlixhkeit is another (I have no idea how it is spelt as I dont speak German but thats the pronunciation of it) . IT is a shame that we dont know the words as it means that we probably can not experience it as easily.
     
  8. Stevin

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    Looks like you got it, Stefan!

    OK, you guys might not have Gezelligheid, but you do have Charity-shops!!! :D
     
  9. Stefan

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    dont forget car boot sales, the only place where you can find an authentic sykes fairburn knife for £10 lol, Knight, let me know what you think...
     
  10. Knight Templar

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    Stefan:
    That is certainly it. Thanks much for the research! If you would like the Komet slide, send me your mailing address and I will get it out to you.
    --KT
     
  11. C.Evans

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    Tells ya how much I know of US units--I mainly specialize in German ;) And being acrewback--you have a VERY rare piece of US militaria there. Screwbacks are not very common on any US militaria--unless made in Germany--or now in N.Y.

    :cool:
     
  12. Knight Templar

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    Yup....blocked....
     
  14. Stefan

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    WOW, I cant believe I won something, fantastic. Its amazing what a little bit of research can do. It is a nice badge though I didnt know the americans did badges in that shape. Ahh well, we learn something new every day.
     
  15. Knight Templar

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    Stevin:
    Are you saying that you're blocked from this Ebay auction... of an American pin?!?
     
  16. Stevin

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    Yep....and also from your, what was it, Col. Eagle?....Often on both US and UK sites, I see a blatant ALLIED piece....and find myself blocked from that item....

    Ahh, well, maybe I should be thankfull to them...Then I don't spent that much.... [​IMG]
     
  17. Martin Bull

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    How true, Stevin - I'm just hoping that the bankruptcy court will let me keep the computer, and that the cell in the debtor's prison has a power point where I can plug it in... :( ;) :D
     
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    [ 23. January 2003, 03:19 AM: Message edited by: Crapgame ]
     
  19. Stevin

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    That reminds me of Friedrich :( (God knows how he is doing)....He wrote me just before he went into hospital that he was going to smuggle his laptop with him and he would kill anybody who would come near it...He wanted to keep up with the forums.... :(
     
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    We must find out how he's getting on....?? :(
     

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