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  1. Kai-Petri

    Kai-Petri Kenraali

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    Nope..I am sorry to be cruel but it is not the way Galland himself counted the times. I can tell that one of the times is when he received the certificate back for the brilliants after the war, the brilliants were taken from Goering´s vault, where he had given a safe for Galland to keep his valuables.The "robbers" were not interested in such papers...

    But anyway, the main idea is the quality of the brilliants here, and maybe you guys now remember how he got more brilliants than anybody else... ;)
     
  2. redcoat

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    :D here`s a hard question :D
    What enemy "object" did the RN submarine HMS Safari torpedo on the 17 November 1942, and why was it so unusual an event
    ;)

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  3. Panzerknacker

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    Thats illegal-the old question hasnt been answered yet...
     
  4. Kai-Petri

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    Ok, Another tip: Goering had a lot to do with Galland´s brilliants...but why??

    :D
     
  5. Kai-Petri

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    Ok, here´s the story:

    From Galland´s " Die ersten und die letzten"

    " On 28 January 1942 I was awarded as the second soldier in Wehrmacht the Brilliants to my Knight´s cross. I was happily surprised. Mölders had his after his 100th air victory, and I was still missing six. Hitler thought that my new position should not give me the expression that it had stopped me from getting the highest possible honour in the German army. Besides my 94 victories were all from the Western front so they were thought as more valuable.

    My first brilliants I received in the usual ceremony by Hitler. A bit later I was travelling with Goering in his special train as he wanted to see my brilliants. " Are those the brilliants that Fuhrer gave you? Let me see!"
    "No" he said. "These are not brilliants! These are pieces of glassa! Totally useless! The Fuhrer has been fooled by these. He knows on tanks and planes but nothing on brilliants. I have a little stock myself, you´ll be surprised, Galland! "
    Later on I was asked to Karinhall, where Goering was happy like a child. Goering took the Fuhrer´s brilliants to his other, then his brilliants to his other hand and asked me to comapre: "Look-notice the difference? Who is the one who understands on brilliants?" I must say the Goering´s brilliants were absolutely fabulous. They were big and shone beautifully. Compared to these the Fuhrer´s brilliants were nothing.So now I had two sets of brilliants.
    Goering also mentione dthat he´s going to talk with Fuhrer about this matter.
    I guess he did because soon I was asked to Wolfsschanze. In the presence of Milch, Keitel and Jeschonnek Fuhrer told me " Galland, you are about to receive the highest honours in the German military, but so far you only had the temporary brilliants with you..."
    I was truly schocked and frightened, because I had taken Goering´s brilliants to this occasion. Goering had not told Hitler about this. The situation became even worse as Hitler wanted to have the brilliants I had on.he must have noticed they were not the brilliants he had given, but he kept it in his hand and said:" Well, see the difference! These are pure glass while these are true brilliants!" Anyhow the Goering´s brilliants were much bigger and looked better-Fuhrer had no idea of what brilliants looked like?? But now I had the brilliants in three sets.
    As the war was coming towards its end, my office in Berlin was bombed and I lost my brilliants. As Hitler heard of this, he gave me a new set of brilliants-the fourth ones."

    Actually I was originally asking the number of the times he got the brilliants not else so I must admit that you got it right Panzerknacker. I thought it was three but now that I have the book it says it was actually four.Over to you!

    PS. Did you know what circus Rosarius was? It was a group of allied planes caught by Germans that went from one place to other and the German pilots were allowed to experience the different types of enemy planes and see the weak and strong points.

    :D
     
  6. Panzerknacker

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    What did Hitler say about "decadent" art???
    Hint: It concerns those who actually painted such things...
     
  7. Kai-Petri

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    That they should be sterilized?!

    :eek:
     
  8. Martin Bull

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    '...here, the new products ( of art ) showed signs, not only of artistic aberration but of spiritual degeneration....
    Anyone to whom this statement may appear strange need only take a glance at those lucky States which have become Bolshevized and, to his horror, he will there recognize those morbid monstrosities which have been produced by insane and degenerate people...'

    'Mein Kampf' Part 1, Hurst & Blackett edn. 1942.

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  9. Panzerknacker

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    SPOT ON KAI...
    "Anyone who sees and paints a sky green and pastures blue ought to be sterilised"
     
  10. Kai-Petri

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    All right,

    the Finnish Waffen -SS men came home in the summer of 1943? Why?
     
  11. Kai-Petri

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    Sorry,

    to put my words better: The Finns returned to the Finnish army in the summer of 1943 from the Waffen-SS.Why´s that?
     
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    Finland itself was in Jepardy, so the finns asked to be transfered home to fight for their homeland.
     
  13. Kai-Petri

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    Hmmm..yes, sorta right, except that only the government could decide on the whole matter. And how and why did they decide that the boys should coem back. Why exactly summer 1943 ( not just the situation because it was not until 44 the Russian attack ) is the point! A clue: Stalingrad.

    ;)
     
  14. Bish OBE

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    Were the Finns concerned that their troops might get drawn into Lenningrad in the same way that the Germans were drawn into Stalingad
     
  15. Kai-Petri

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    No Bish,

    but the balance of war changed-Germany was not winning by Finnish army advisors after Stalingrad. But this is not enough as there is something more to it.It´s in the net sites alright if you have the will to find it.( if you didn´t know already )

    ;)
     
  16. C.Evans

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    From what I understand, the Finns were forced into quitting Germany by the Russians and as part of an "agreement" between the Finns and Russians, the Finns were to expel all German forces from Finninsh territory--if they could not be captured.

    As the Finns really wanted to still be comrades with the Germas, they did nothing against the Germans for quite sometime--all the while--Moscow had lost patience with the Finnish Govt and basically said: " Do as we agreed--of we will re-invade and occupy all of Finland"

    So the Finns did tiny things against the germans here and there (still not really wanting to do anything against their now forced--formre ally) and the Germans massed all their units together for a big withdrawel from Finnish territory. They did this in the form of a giant Amoeba.

    Or am I wrong? :D
     
  17. Kai-Petri

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    Hmmm getting warmer Carl, getting warmer...

    But the date is important here! Why was it spring 1943 that the Finns were going home??! This is important!

    :D
     
  18. Bish OBE

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    They had achieved their aims hat they set out for. To egain the lkand taken in the Winter war. And they wanted no part in Germanies war.
     
  19. Sniper

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    Was it because the Finns had been asking for 6 German Divisions to help fight the Russians and only received one. And then Stalingrad fell, and Manneheim realised that Finland wouldn't be getting any more help from Germany, so all the Finnish forces were withdrawn home to help stem the Russian threat??

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