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WWII Forums Quiz Part VII

Discussion in 'Quiz Me!' started by PzJgr, Mar 26, 2007.

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  1. mikebatzel

    mikebatzel Dreadnaught

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    You got it. I found it an interesting story to say the least. I however do not support the claims of "sunk by toilet" as it was bombs that put it out of commisions, and gas that caused the need to surface;). I was kinda hoping it would be a bit more difficult than it turned out to be.

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  2. TiredOldSoldier

    TiredOldSoldier Ace

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    Still no scanner but looks like anyrthing just text will be google-soved in minutes so ....

    What is this ship and why was her original name such a bad match for her history?

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  3. TiredOldSoldier

    TiredOldSoldier Ace

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    Hint: The city in the background should be not too difficult to recognize, but her most famous action involved two ports further south!
     
  4. mikebatzel

    mikebatzel Dreadnaught

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    The ship is the Italian Gabbiano Class corvette Baionetta, I'm not sure what your looking for, most information is in Italian, which I unfortunatly don't speak. She escorted the Royal Family and top ranks of the Italian military to Brindisi. she also took damage from German torpedoes?

    Thats all I found so far.
     
  5. TiredOldSoldier

    TiredOldSoldier Ace

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    You got most of it.
    Her sub group of the Gabbiano class, built in Venice by Breda, all had names of weapons, her original name was Partigiana which is a medieval dagger. But it's also the femminine of "partigiano" or resistance fighter so it was changed in a hurry. Difficult to catch if you don't know Italian though many sources append "ex Partigiana" to her name and it does look a little like the English word "partisan". Pretty ill suited for the ship the king and some high level government officials used to run away in. BTW where did you find info about the torpedo damage? first time I heard about it and I would be very curious to check it.

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  6. mikebatzel

    mikebatzel Dreadnaught

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    Here is what it said, though maybe I translated incorrectly
    found here
    http://digilander.libero.it/carandin/baionetta.htm

    I will think of a Q and post it later tonight
     
  7. mikebatzel

    mikebatzel Dreadnaught

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    OK here is my question. On the first day of the Guadalcanal invasion Japanese planes based from Rabaul attacked the invasion fleet. Taking hindsight out of the equation, Rear Admiral Sadayoshi Yamada was completely convinced that the base would be raided by American carrier aircraft. With that in mind, what did he do that was detrimental to the defense of or counter attack from the base from this perceived attack?
     
  8. TiredOldSoldier

    TiredOldSoldier Ace

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    Tough one, apparently neither Morrison nor Dull say anything about it, one guess was he kept the fighters home so bombers went in unescorted and failed to achieve much besides damaging destroyer Mugford and losing four planes. An Osprey book I have quotes two raids by Type 99 Aichi (should be Val) and "10 twin engined Type 97 bombers" (that baffles me as the Kate is single engined and the Sally is unlikely as it's JAAF not JNAF) but no mention of fighters. Ordering plane dispersal to satellite fields, and so loosing any chance of coordinating them, is another possibility.
    BTW: could find no other reference of the torpedo damage on Baionetta, your translation is correct but I don't remember anything about torpedo damage in the tales of a relative of mine who served on her. Two 21' torpedoes, unless both were duds, are unlikely to just damage a corvette and she went on serving untill scrapped long after the war. Google is great but not all it turns up is 100% accurate :cool:.
     
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    mikebatzel Dreadnaught

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    Yes the second raid was Aichi D3A1 Vals. Fearing a carrier based air raid, a decent portion of the Zero's were held back to defend. However, he then launched all the Vals based at Lakunai field. The Vals hadn't sufficent range to return so he sent a float plane tender to rescue ditched aviators. If a US carrier based attack occured he had no divebombers left in which to counter and sink the American ships.

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  10. TiredOldSoldier

    TiredOldSoldier Ace

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    Don't seem to be able to post images today so a text one

    The Republic P47 and the Reggiane Re 2005 share .........
     
  11. TA152

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    They share the same design starting point from the Seversky P-35 ???
     
  12. TiredOldSoldier

    TiredOldSoldier Ace

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    Correct

    P-35 -> P-43 (and some other even more less known designs ..) -> P-47
    P-35 -> Re 2000 (almost an exact copy) -> Re 2001 -> Re 2005

    If you look at them from above you can still see some similarity.

    Over to you
     
  13. TA152

    TA152 Ace

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    Most aircraft of WWII used either hydraulics or electric power to operate thier power gun turrets.
    This Japanese aircraft used wind power to operate the turret and aim the guns.
    Name the plane.
     
    texson66 and skunk works like this.
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    Hmm I will have to get back to you on the but maybe the Ki-67? Probably not but I have to do some reading.
     
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    Excellent question TA152 !
    I've been reading mucho, and finding out much I had no idea about. I have not found an answer, but learning, learning, learning.
    Points for that one. ;)
     
  16. 4th wilts

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    betty?
     
  17. TA152

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    No not the Betty, it was only good for cooking it's crews.
     
  18. TA152

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    I guess you guys need some hints; DC-4E copy, aerodynamically operated turret invented by Senjiro Ishizaki, a Nakajima engineer. Information found in the June 1981 issue of Wings magazine. Shinzan-Kai
     
  19. texson66

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    Wow, TA152! This was a great question! I tracked it down with your hints! The Nakajima GSN5 attack bomber (Liz) or as you said the DC-4E copy!See below:

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    [​IMG] Here's the Japanese version:
     
  20. TA152

    TA152 Ace

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    At last a winner ! I have not found a picture of the tail gunner position on the web but if you are interested I can post a picture from my magizane.

    I thought it was a very cleaver idea. They cut a series of air inlets into the rear fuselage and you don't have to have all the plumbing and motors ect. to operate the turret.

    Over to you. :D
     

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