Yes!!! Obamacare under attack!

I have health insurance, through my wife's work, although I rarely use it as I prefer to pay cash. I am self employed and I go to the "Walk in Clinic/ Doc-In the -Box" a couple of times a year either to get something stitched back together or have it removed from an eye. I have been in the hospital twice in the last 15 years and I was very greatful for the insurace.

I do not think that mandating health insurance is a viable approach as it does nothing to reduce the cost of health care, the insurance industry is what drives that cost.

The thing I don't understand is with mandated health insurance there are still going to be people that do not have insurance, they are still going to need medical treatment and they are still going to be provided treatment when they show up at a hospital.

I think it would make more sense to limit how much hosptals and doctors can charge. Why does a trip to the emergency room cost $1,000.00+/- and visiting a walk in clinic is $$65.00? I can be in and out of a walk-in clinic in about an hour or so. It makes no sense.

 

That poll I referred to was only published in USA/Today, it was conducted by Gallup.

See:

By Slim Margin, Americans Support Healthcare Bill's Passage

 

Here is a good article on health care costs, and what polls show people do and don't know about what drives the costs.

WEDNESDAY, March 24 (HealthDay News) -- Nearly half of Americans are "extremely" or "very worried" about rising costs for health care and health insurance, and a majority place the blame on drug and insurance company profits, a new Harris Interactive/HealthDay poll finds.

The poll was conducted in the days leading up to Sunday's historic House of Representatives' vote to reform health care and attempt to rein in escalating costs. The vote was followed by President Barack Obama's signature Tuesday, making the bill law.

Still, some health economists and other experts debate whether the blame revealed in the poll is justified. Some health economists say insurance and pharmaceutical company profits amount to only about 2 percent of total health care spending.(bold mine)

Instead, fees charged by doctors and hospitals, as well as expanding use of increasingly sophisticated and expensive health-care technologies, are the primary cause of escalating health-care costs, these experts contend.

…Many health-care economists attribute the increased cost of care to increased demand and utilization, increased prices and the increased use of expensive tests and treatments. Most people, as shown here, do not think of these as the main drivers of increased health-care spending.　
See:

Poll Finds Americans Blame Insurers, Drug Companies for Rising Health Costs - US News and World Report

 

Legal scholars would tend to disgree with you and the Attorneys General who have filed said suits.

The Boston Globe: "Attorneys general from 13 states sued the federal government yesterday, arguing the landmark health care overhaul is unconstitutional just seven minutes after President Obama signed it into law. The lawsuit was filed in Pensacola after the Democratic president signed the 10-year, $938 billion bill the House passed Sunday night. ...

Legal specialists say it has little chance of succeeding because, under the Constitution, federal laws trump state laws. ... The lawsuit contends that the bill violates the 10th Amendment ... by forcing the states to carry out its provisions but not reimbursing them for the costs (3/24). (bold mine)
　
Article. VI.

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

See:

The Supremacy Clause and Federal Preemption

 

As Horace Mann once said: "Ignorance breeds monsters to fill up the vacancies of the soul that are unoccupied by the verities of knowledge."

 

I may regret getting involved in this but, Clint, I would suggest that gallop needs to increase the number of people they call on this one. Those numbers are outside the +/- 3 percentage points when compared to the last poll they did before the vote, which showed that more people opposed the bill than supported.

Personally I am all for reform, but this is not reform. It was designed to bankrupt the industry. I have many problems with the bill that got passed. In the business in which I work we used stay-at-home moms for simple assembly production. They get paid on a per piece basis and are considered sub-contractors. This new bill will require us to give them health benefits. Why? They have never seen the inside of our facility. We deliver parts and mail a check. They have no desire to work more than what they feel like working, but our company will require us to provide them with health care.

I also have a major problem with the abortion issue. I realize that Obama is to issue a executive order on this topic. But he also issued one that said Gitmo would no longer house prisoners by Feb. 2010.

Also let us remember that reconciliation is for use with budget acts, so anything not impacting the federal budget should be removed from the bill, and it will have to be voted on as well. On top of that, by law, nothing being passed through reconciliation can have any impact (good or bad) on Social Security. The bill that was passed will add close to 10 million per year toward SS. By law, this should be removed (which is pretty much the "meat" of the bill and be sent back to committee. The current congress has used a loophole in the system to force through a bill that had no chance of succeeding through the usual 60 vote system.

On my last point, I would like to express my deep resentment toward my own representative. Local polls have shown 71% of people in the district I live opposed this bill. Yet my own Rep is reported to have sold his vote for a seat on some committee.

I am all for reform, but this was NOT the way to do it.

 

I'm out of here too, since the portion which started this thread is a moot point. Federal Law trumps State Law, always has, always will.

 

NRA?

 

Personally, I feel anyone who thinks its ok to rob people of their earnings to give to others in the name of government dishonors the sacrifice and memory that the veterans of WWII. Those men fought so you could be free to make decisions on your own; not from some government weasel board to decide if you can be treated in a medical facility.

 

...which is violating the constitution of this country (at least in regards to Health care)!

People really need to wake up to this fact.