At Least Three Police Officers Shot, Killed in Baton Rouge

Try to make some sense when you post. It makes it so much more interesting for the readers.

 

I mostly agree, KB. However, I don't think we can yet say the Castile case is a bad shoot, or a good shoot for that matter. All we've seen is a video that starts after the shooting and most of the commentary on the video is one-sided. This one does concern me as a P2C holder, but I want it to be ruled a bad shoot on the evidence and not on what the media can or chooses to report.

The Jamar Clark shooting from last year was initially claimed to be a bad shoot in part due to the media repetition of the "fact" that the witnesses said he was cuffed while on the ground wrestling with the cops. What was conveniently left out until the county attorney presented the facts was that there were other witnesses who said he was not cuffed. Somehow the media was unaware of those witnesses. All of the evidence collected confirmed that he was not cuffed, as well as the fact that Clark was trying to pull one of the cop's gun from his holster. The Feds came in and looked at the evidence and confirmed the decision not to charge and that they would not pursue civil rights charges either.

 

It was mostly tongue-in-cheek, but perhaps i am "older" than most here.?
Uncle Tom is easy enough to look up. I cannot see the picture, but i assume the cop in that link is "black".?
That is typical cop-speak...encouraging citizens to give up their rights, to stop protesting. But that is what happens when you are a servant of The State. It is your job to protect it. One way you do that is by Marginalizing the Citizens and Voting Class. Stripping them of their right to assembly is a good way to Achieve that job goal. Nobody has ever accused cops of encouraging people to exercise their rights. They frequently trample all over them.
As a photographer, we have to constantly remind The Police that we have a right to photograph in public, a right they are constantly trying to squelch, at the bequest of Commercial Property Owners, Politicians, and the Fascist Class...The Koch Brothers show etc etc.
"Cops" as an entity, an organization. Yes, there are MANY good cops, my brother Is/Was a Cop. But the institution is rotten and needs an emergency over-haul.
"Burn Baby Burn" was a Popular/Favorite segue to new and popular hit songs of a Very Popular LA disc-jockey in the 1940-1950 decades. It was taken up by many in the Peace/Anti War movement, and was mistakenly glued to the Watts Fires as an original battle cry.
Malcolm (X) was a Freedom Fighter, and is very easy to Internet Search. many of his speeches are in the public domain. His quotes are Legendary and Impressive.
I suppose the Angela Davis reference WAS pretty vague. She was another innocent that was victimized by the Police/State. MANY of the asinine comments levied at Black Lives Matter members were also used against her. The crap-bag Reagans swore she would "Never teach again". As with most everything in life, they were wrong about her as well. She is STILL teaching and is a National Treasure.
My other comments regarding Right-Wing rhetoric, defending the Nanny State and its ongoing problems with its Military/Police Force, with its decades long violence against the common citizenry should be fairly obvious to discern.
We need a Citizen board, WITH POWER to act, to control OUR Police Force. They re supposed to be working for us.
Gung Ho

 

not relevant

 

An other agent shot, this time in Kansas City .

 

Two Leos were fired on in NY City .

 

Fascinating.

 

Whats makes you think that we have "lost our way?" Some groups of people here might have lost their way, or maybe those in government may have lost their minds, but the USA is doing fine. We have about 350,000,000 or so people here, and all the shootings and terrible things always makes the papers since bad news sell papers. And with 24/7 news coverage, the news is flooded with the bad things all the time. The way our illustrious el presidente and his succession of shitourney generals have conducted business in the last 7+ years has done more to contribute to the problems we have to deal with than anything else.

Being the "beacon of light" like you say is not all it's crapped up to be these days. Most of those folks journeying here to the Statue of Liberty are busting their a$$'es getting here to get on the welfare wagon, so maybe some of the disconnect might be linked to that phenomena. Not many of them try to get her to work hard to provide a better way of life for their families. Cut out welfare, food stamps and other giveaways and let's see how many them keep coming. If they come to work and assimilate, that's fine and dandy. If they come here to collect "gimme stuff" and try to create the same world they "escaped" from, then that's part of the problem.

We don't want to lose our sovereignty or our freedom like some people have. Fought too hard to get it, and to keep it.

 

Out of salutes for the day, but hell yes! If you don't have a trade we need, stay home. We didn't found this country to provide aid to people who have f**ked up their own countries.

 

Umm...you sorted did...England being one of the f..cked up countries at the time...difference is the hand out was hard work, not money for nothing...
Part of the problem to colonising Australia, and I'm sure the US was Poms trying to make the place look like the old country...dumb c...s.

 

I agree, all you F'd Up, Free Loading, Violent Terrorists should stay home. Immigrants coming the The USA are a nightmare.....just ask The Indians.
Immigrants ran a Genocidal Orgy on those poor souls. We do not want that to happen to our Privileged and Angelic Lives.
Face it...the usa had its day in the sun. Retribution is going to be tough.
BTW.....look at who is on the move, and how much usa military, anti-drug, and foreign policy "aid" are given to the countries with large emigration to the usa.
We have burned up most of the oil, cut down most of the trees, fouled most of the oceans, so we could live a life of leisure, and exert control over our underlings. The rest of The World Is Mad As Hell And Are Not Going To Take It Anymore.
Power to the people...the masses of little people.

 

Great, then it will be just like that wonderful time in France called the Reign of Terror.

 

.....or that time so many "Americans" are proud to call The Revolutionary War.

 

Stay on topic please gentlemen.

 

The last 2 high profile cop killers were former-Military who had served in Afghan / Iraq.
How does that make other Veterans feel ?
As the USMC say once a Marine always a Marine .
Not trolling just wondering how the killers as viewed as the military are held in high regard in the US.

 

They're viewed as killers, and scum. There are bad apples in every bunch. I'm more angry that the media is trying to insinuate that they being "war" veterans had any bearing.
The Marine (I won't dignify him by mentioning his name) was an 0651, Data Network Specialist so he did deploy to the war zone but I doubt ever heard a shot or probably even saw an Iraqi. He probably flew into Al Asad, spent his time in an air conditioned building (for the computers), ate at a first class dining facility, did his tour and flew home. He would have received some infantry training after Boot Camp at MCT (Marine Combat Training) an approximately 30 day course for all support Marines. This is however a comparable course, time wise, to the Army's infantry school. All his assignments were to higher headquarters units. His only personal award was the good conduct medal, so he did his job, stayed out of serious trouble but probably didn't excel.

Marine Corps Good Conduct Medal;
Iraq Campaign Medal;-Deployed to Iraq or its territorial waters for 30 consecutive days.
Sea Service Deployment Ribbon (3rd Award);-For being Forward Deployed with your unit; Combat Marines in Iraq/Afghanistan do a 7 month tour, non-combat 12-15 months.
Global War on Terrorism Service Medal;-Participation in a "War on Terror" operation, in this case OIF.
National Defense Service Medal;-For serving on Active Duty during a designated War period.
Navy Unit Commendation Medal-His unit was awarded this for performance in combat. In his case 3rd Marine Division or 3rd Marine Air Wing, he served with both headquarters.

The Army guy, (again won't mention his name for the same reasons), was an Army Reserve (12W) Carpentry and Masonry Specialist. He probably received virtually no combat training. He built stuff, and was deployed to Kandahar Air Base where he built stuff and saw NO combat. He was sent home from Afghanistan at least 5 months before his tour was over due to "sexual harrassment" charges. He spent 5 years as a Private First Class (E3) and no Good Conduct Medal (in his case because he was a reservist it would be an ARCAM (Army Reserve Components Achievement Medal) so he probably was a trouble maker while in the service. The Dallas Morning News stated, "Forced out of the Army, Johnson used the skills he'd honed there to unleash bullets on the uniformed police officers with deadly precision." The truth is after he was forced out he read numerous tactical manuals and practiced techniques religiously (also reported by other sources), if he'd beaten the officers to death with a framing hammer, the papers statement "might" have had some truth to it.

Afghanistan Campaign Medal with campaign star-Deployed to Afghanistan
Army Achievement Medal-awarded for outstanding achievement or meritorious service not of a nature that would otherwise warrant awarding the Commendation Medal.
National Defense Service Medal-For serving on Active Duty during a designated War period.
Global War on Terrorism Service Medal-Participation in a "War on Terror" operation, in this case OEF.
Army Service Ribbon-for successful completion of initial-entry training (MOS school)
Armed Forces Reserve Medal w/ “M” Device-Awarded for deploying as a reservist
NATO Medal-Afghanistan is a NATO operation and is awarded to all personnel deployed there.

 

All good points up there.
Whether somebody was in the military, was a painter, dentist, etc etc, is not a condemnation of the entire group.....and may have had no impact on their decisions at all.

 

Cheers for clearing up their service details as not too sure on what they did .

 

Lee Harvey Oswald and Charles Witman were former USMC types, but as mentioned in earlier posts they crossed into the realm of being PsOS (pieces of sh1t) when they committed their atrocities. There is no longer a bond with those types. They transferred themselves to another type of a band of brothers.

 

This man was a Police Officer for quite some time...about 35 years i think.
He has written a book or two about law enforcement.
He is a pretty good read...former Police Chief of Seattle.

http://normstamper.com/

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/tavissmiley/interviews/former-police-chief-norm-stamper/

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-former-seattle-police-chief-reacts-to-ferguson-20140815-story.html